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Did I have an emotionally abusive childhood?

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user1487755366 · 24/03/2021 15:26

It’s hard to have perspective on these things when you’ve lived it for so long. I think I had an emotionally abusive childhood.
Main points:

  • when my mother found out my dad was sleeping with another woman, she told me and asked me to keep it a secret. I was 5, maybe 6. I told my cousin who was a year younger who shared it with her parents and it got back to my mother. She completely blew it, woke me up with a slap and told me and punished me for breaking the secret
  • she always wanted to choose my clothes. I was only allowed to choose my own clothes if she decided the events were ‘my’ events rather than ‘hers’ ie ones we attended as a family. She would become very angry and upset if I challenged her on this, reminding me of how hard she worked and how much she had sacrificed for me and that it wasn’t a big ask. I normally complied.
  • she took complete control of our wedding plans including the guest list. We had around 100 guests and only 25 of those were allowed to be our friends. She justified this by offering to pay. It wasn’t really an offer. We had no choice.
  • the morning after our wedding, I woke up to learn that she had opened all of our wedding cards and removed all of the cash gifts and planned to keep this. When I grew upset at this, I was shouted at and criticised and made to feel extremely guilty. The justification was that this was so that she could match the gifts to those people. When I said we were planning to use the gifts as a couple for our house furnishings she very begrudgingly agreed but I was made to feel very unreasonable.
  • in arguments growing up, petty things like me wanting to test the boundaries as teenagers do, I was told how ungrateful and selfish I was, reminded of her traumatic birth with me and told I was just like my father. Religion was also used to justify this.
  • just before my a level exams, she wanted to go on holiday but didn’t want to bring her elderly mother with her, my grandmother. My grandmother needed round the clock care and was suffering with early stage Alzheimer’s. I said I wanted to concentrate on my studies and that I couldn’t care for my gran as well. A huge argument ensued. I was told that this was selfish and wrong as my mum worked so hard and the very least I could do to repay her was to take care of my grandmother. I agreed. My grandmother ended up having up having a stroke and needing hospital admission. I remember calling mum that night and telling her, I was very much just expected to just get on and deal with things. I didn’t drive and I was expected to visit my grandmother in hospital daily. It was a bank holiday weekend so buses were cancelled and I ended up walking the 6 mile round trip everyday. This was just expected and seen as my duty.

The timeline with the above is a bit off and there are more incidents but it is only very recently, now that I am a parent, that I’m beginning to think this is abusive. I was very very scared of my mum and still am. Especially as I now work with children and know about safeguarding and am also a parent myself, I wonder why nobody saw the signs with me and did something to help. My brother still lives in this household and I worry for him. I am considering cutting ties for the safety of my children. Is this the right thing to do? My husband has used the term abuse before and I’ve always dismissed it as too extreme and that my mother is just a bit of a nightmare and unpredictable but now I’m wondering if he’s right?

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CleaningIdiot · 24/03/2021 15:32

Yes, your mother was abusive and I'm very sorry this happened to you. No or low contact is probably a good idea Flowers

Confusedandshaken · 24/03/2021 15:36

Just point 1 is a big fat yes. Adults shouldn't involve children in adult matters. Adults shouldn't hit children. Adults shouldn't hold children to standards they can't maintain themselves - she couldn't keep it to herself but you were expected to?

The other things are less clear cut particularly the wedding one because you weren't a child then but none of it sounds loving or supportive. At the least she was often very controlling.

I would suggest you get some counselling to work out for yourself how you feel about all this and how you want to move forward.

How old is your brother? If he is a child or otherwise vulnerable, let him know he can come to you if he needs to. If he is an adult I would let it lie for now. He will need to make his own choices just like you are.

Good luck.

Comtesse · 24/03/2021 15:39

You poor love. No one should feel very very afraid of their parent. If you feel like that as a grown adult knowing all you know about her, how would your kids deal with the onslaught? Have you read Toxic Parents by Susan Forward - I think you would get a lot out of it.

Flakeymcwakey · 24/03/2021 15:48

Yes this is emotional abuse. In a normal, healthy family, people do not fear one another. It's really hard when it's from someone who believes in themselves that they love you. And when you can see where they are coming from and that they can't seem to grasp how it's not okay. But it is still abuse. Sorry OP. Untangling yourself from her would be really useful. Talking therapy is brilliant for this stuff

user1487755366 · 24/03/2021 17:23

@Confusedandshaken

Just point 1 is a big fat yes. Adults shouldn't involve children in adult matters. Adults shouldn't hit children. Adults shouldn't hold children to standards they can't maintain themselves - she couldn't keep it to herself but you were expected to?

The other things are less clear cut particularly the wedding one because you weren't a child then but none of it sounds loving or supportive. At the least she was often very controlling.

I would suggest you get some counselling to work out for yourself how you feel about all this and how you want to move forward.

How old is your brother? If he is a child or otherwise vulnerable, let him know he can come to you if he needs to. If he is an adult I would let it lie for now. He will need to make his own choices just like you are.

Good luck.

Thank you. My brother is 16
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WisnaeMe · 24/03/2021 21:06

Im sorry for what you have endured OP, your Mother is an abuser.

Biffbaff · 24/03/2021 21:59

Yes, I am so sorry. I am coming to terms with things that happened to me in my family too. Abuse never felt like the right word before but actually, I think it was. It is heartbreaking but recognising this is somewhere on the path to healing. Sending love.

MayDayFightsBack · 24/03/2021 22:08

Definitely abusive, it's not you it's her. I'm so sorry you went through this. Flowers

Thelnebriati · 24/03/2021 22:29

user1487755366 I don't know if this will resonate with you at all, but have you heard of enmeshment?

Parents who are enmeshed with their children treat them as if they are extensions of themselves, rather than separate individuals. They expect their children to carry on behaving according to their rules even as adults.
www.regain.us/advice/general/the-enmeshed-family-14-signs-of-enmeshment-and-how-to-overcome-difficult-relationship-dynamics/

www.healthline.com/health/enmeshed-family#signs-of-enmeshment

user1487755366 · 25/03/2021 07:33

[quote Thelnebriati]user1487755366 I don't know if this will resonate with you at all, but have you heard of enmeshment?

Parents who are enmeshed with their children treat them as if they are extensions of themselves, rather than separate individuals. They expect their children to carry on behaving according to their rules even as adults.
www.regain.us/advice/general/the-enmeshed-family-14-signs-of-enmeshment-and-how-to-overcome-difficult-relationship-dynamics/

www.healthline.com/health/enmeshed-family#signs-of-enmeshment[/quote]
Oh my god it really does resonate. Thank you

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halfmoonbay · 25/03/2021 18:23

Your mother sounds just like mine, she was abusive, violent and just plain nasty. Hence, no relationship now. It wasn't until I became a parent that I realised how bad and wrong it was. I feel for you, we deserved much much better x

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