Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Husbands covid anxiety is out of control

46 replies

whatamess101 · 23/03/2021 11:18

I get that covid is a genuine and very real concern and I am not blasé about covid risks myself but my husband's anxiety is out of control. It's all he talks about and is reading the news constantly. He rarely leaves the house (he works for home). If we do go out as a family for a walk he gets very agitated, especially passing people. I remind him that it's incredibly unlikely to catch it passing people outdoors. His answer to all my reassurances are ffs whatamess there's a pandemic. Everything that comes into the house has to be antibac'd - including all post and food shopping (I even found him antibacing a garlic bulb...). I'm really worried about the effect it's having on our children (3 and 6 yrs). My 3 year old is always asking if he is going to catch the coronavirus if he does something wrong. We went for a walk at the weekend and husband shouted at them for touching a tree in case it had the virus on it!!! But the worst was this morning, our 3 year old blew a raspberry and a bit of spit landed on my husband who then shouted at him saying he could make daddy very ill! Shocking, we had a big argument about that.

We live in an area with quite low covid rates. He is 43, he has mild asthma but otherwise healthy. He is generally risk adverse and a bit of a worrier and it's often been a sticking point when parenting the children.

I just don't know how to help him. I've tried listening and being empathetic to his worries but this seems to egg him on. So now I'm ignoring it and when he mentions the news I say I don't want to talk about it. I've asked him to consider CBT but he says he doesn't have a problem he's just being sensible and it's a pandemic how else should he behave.

I know we're in very unusual times, but am I wrong to think this is not reasonable behaviour? Would I be unreasonable to give him some sort of ultimatum to get professional help?! Any advice would be appreciated.

OP posts:
beckylovescats · 23/03/2021 14:35

Hi OP. Sorry to hear about your situation. I had really really bad anxiety about covid and can relate to your husband. I helped get my anxiety under control by not reading the news. No news at all. My husband let's me know if there is any important things I should know about and keeps me updated on good covid news like about the vaccines. Maybe you could suggest that he stops looking at news for a while and see if it helps. Good luck. X

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 23/03/2021 14:44

I'm on the shielding list and have been very careful but he's on another level. We never washed shopping!
Oh and I have proper diagnosed OCD so he's really going some to make me look laid back!

Lullaby88 · 23/03/2021 14:44

I emphatise with your husband. I have a great deal of anxiety myself. Being in a pregnant state amplifies the anxiousness though. Please get yr husband some help. Dont b harsh on him. Anxiety is a real thing and he needs ur support and understanding. Dont mock him for cleaning and anti baccing. Let him be. But he does need professional help.

Cherryblossom7 · 23/03/2021 14:54

Hi whatamess101,

I have severe diagnosed OCD (one aspect of this being a contamination/germ obsession) and I would definitely consider the more extreme reactions, especially reacting to your 3 year-old's spit and to your kids touching a tree to be OCD-like reactions.

It also sounds like your DH is also a little behind the times with respect to surface contamination/fomite transmission as most recent research seems to suggest that the main way that most people pick up Covid is from direct contact with someone who is contagious, and not from droplet-surface transmission.

I think you do need to have a serious discussion about how this is impacting on your kids and that it is totally reasonable for you to expect your DH to seek CBT treatment. In many areas of the country you can self-refer to an IAPT service online and the CBT sessions would just be online through Zoom.

whatamess101 · 23/03/2021 16:15

Thank you @RandomMess @beckylovescats @Lullaby88 and @Cherryblossom7 for your perspectives from someone with anxiety. I do get it, I had bad anxiety and OCD for a period when I had post natal depression and he was so supportive and kind and I want to do the same for him. I think stopping reading the news would be helpful, he did do that for a while and it was better.

I'm trying to prepare for a conversation with him as you suggested @Bluntness100. Get my facts straight and prepare answers for his denial etc.

OP posts:
Cas112 · 23/03/2021 16:45

You need to stop him reading the news! it wont help and does a lot of scare mongering!

wigglerose · 23/03/2021 16:56

Its not rational what he is doing, but if we needed to wash and antibac food and packages to keep it safe during the covid pandemic, we'd need to do it during normal times for normal hygeine reasons to avoud catching bugs from packaging and foodstuffs left right and centre.

blackcat86 · 23/03/2021 17:20

OK I wasn't too concerned until you said about the tree and raspberry blowing. If he won't get help I would be suggesting he move out until he does because he cannot be scaring and shouting at the children

DinosaurDiana · 23/03/2021 17:23

I agree that if he won’t get help he needs to move out.
My DH had anxiety but refused to accept it, I should have had him move out at the time but you don’t realise how bad it is when you’re living it.

Lullaby88 · 23/03/2021 22:46

@blackcat86 i dont think kicking him out of the house is the answer or advice to give actually.
He has anxiety and needs to be supported not told to leave and sort himself out. That is such a horrible thing to say!
The OP can support him and help him. If he is cleaning and it makes him feel at ease then let him be. Ofcourse everyone has outbursts at their children what he did was probably more due to his anxiety and cant be so harsh about it. He needs his wifes support right now and its food she is thinking of ways to help him.

Lullaby88 · 23/03/2021 22:47

Good*

ThatsNotTheTeaHunty · 23/03/2021 22:51

I am like your husband. My shopping still gets wiped. I suffer really bad with anxiety and always worry about passing people outside.

My DS is 20 months so into everything and touching everything. Although in my head I'm like oh no what if that had the virus on it. I snap myself out of it and think we'll wash our hands when we get in.

I'm not as bad as your husband by the sounds of it as I really try to reason with myself but I find myself looking for reassurance from my mum or partner. Especially if someone passed me too close. I'd speak about it to them and they reassure me which makes me feel slightly better.

RachelGreep87 · 23/03/2021 23:02

@Alsohuman Good to see that you subscribe to the "Pull yourself together" approach to mental health.

Triffid1 · 23/03/2021 23:13

[quote Lullaby88]@blackcat86 i dont think kicking him out of the house is the answer or advice to give actually.
He has anxiety and needs to be supported not told to leave and sort himself out. That is such a horrible thing to say!
The OP can support him and help him. If he is cleaning and it makes him feel at ease then let him be. Ofcourse everyone has outbursts at their children what he did was probably more due to his anxiety and cant be so harsh about it. He needs his wifes support right now and its food she is thinking of ways to help him.[/quote]
So his anxiety trumps the damage he is doing to his wife and children? Sorry, no. She can and should be supportive, yes. But there has to be a point at which she makes tough decisions based on what is best for the wider family. Him obsessively cleaning doesn't really affect anyone else so sure, let him get on with it. Him yelling at his children for touching a tree is not okay and is clearly just one of many many incidents.

saraclara · 24/03/2021 00:27

Him yelling at his children for touching a tree is not okay

Absolutely. The worst thing that could happen here, is for his children to be set up for lifelong anxiety because of his behaviour now. So I'm sorry, his needs come well behind the welfare of his children @Lullaby88

Bagamoyo1 · 24/03/2021 00:36

@saraclara

Him yelling at his children for touching a tree is not okay

Absolutely. The worst thing that could happen here, is for his children to be set up for lifelong anxiety because of his behaviour now. So I'm sorry, his needs come well behind the welfare of his children @Lullaby88

I agree. He may recover from this anxiety when Covid has passed, but his children will be permanently scarred.
blackcat86 · 24/03/2021 05:11

[quote Lullaby88]@blackcat86 i dont think kicking him out of the house is the answer or advice to give actually.
He has anxiety and needs to be supported not told to leave and sort himself out. That is such a horrible thing to say!
The OP can support him and help him. If he is cleaning and it makes him feel at ease then let him be. Ofcourse everyone has outbursts at their children what he did was probably more due to his anxiety and cant be so harsh about it. He needs his wifes support right now and its food she is thinking of ways to help him.[/quote]
Anxiety is not a get out of jail free card to shout at your children for totally normal and safe behaviour. OPs husband's anxiety does not trump the needs of her children to be emotionally safe and this situation is very damaging to them. If OPs husband was accessing support my advice would have been different but he is refusing - he sees no issues so the damage to his children continues and may even worsen because he may now struggle to adapt to things opening up again limiting opportunitiesfor the family. You writing off the emotional safety and needs of those children is not ok . Yoi trying to normalise a grown man shouting at a toddler for touching a tree on a walk is not OK. You trying to normalise a grown man and father insinuating to his child that he will kill him due to saliva is not OK. He needs to leave until he is getting help and can be a stable presence for those children. I cannot believe that you are speaking about a grown man as is he were a helpless child. He could get help if he wanted to. When I had severe PND and PNA due to birth trauma it didn't mean I could just go ahead and ruin the lives of everyone I live with. I'm a grown up. I sucked it up and got help immediately. I limited the impact on my child. I put her needs before mine because that's what parents do.

SuperCaliFragalistic · 24/03/2021 05:24

Loads of people were behaving like this a year ago, it was irrational then and it's really irrational now. I would have a serious conversation with him, armed with facts, and the bottom line would be that he needs to attempt to manage his anxiety better or I would be leaving with the children due to the negative effect on them. I can't believe people ever think it's ok to project such irrational fear onto their children - it's so damaging.

UWhat · 24/03/2021 06:16

It sounds like the issue you face here is making him understand that his reactions are not right. It’s all well and good everyone saying he needs to see the GP but if he can’t see that there’s an issue then you’re stuck.

Is there anyone else you can “rope in” to help to speak to him as I think you may fare better if there’s a few of you - parents, siblings anyone like that?

namechange63524 · 24/03/2021 13:22

I really don't think kids will be scarred for life or that he needs to leave the house - he's anxious over covid as are a lot of people. Getting spat at isn't great if you're anxious about covid. Obviously telling a little kid they might kill you for doing this is not on (although unfortunately there is actually some truth in what he said). I think he needs to be cut some slack and kids having no father due to leaving him will be a lot more damaging. Taking the everything is zero risk approach is daft as there is a covid risk! Not every kid will be ok re covid. Not every parent will be ok. Obviously talk to him about his anxiety and agree the levels of risk eg if kids touch a tree, they will be fine. Lots of people were like this a year ago, but more is understood now. Try to talk to him about his reactions being extreme and that in trying to protect his family, he is going OTT. As for people saying three year olds don't know about covid - how on earth not - life has changed dramatically! I think he needs understanding and someone to sense check risk level with.

DaisyDreaming · 24/03/2021 15:36

We sanitise everything coming into the house as we are at risk but I wonder if there’s any middle ground you can find. I was getting anxious so stopped watching/reading the news. Even if he wants to keep up things like sanitising items coming in (which could have Covid to transmit) can you try and get him to understand he needs to not show all his fear to the kids. My friend is very scared but tries to down play it for the kids. For us sanitising things reduces the risk of us catching it but it also makes our house a safe bubble, as we are currently shielding we can live a normal life in our house and blow as many raspberries as we want (not that we do!).

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread