to expect at least an acknowlegement when I ,or menmmbers of family, hold open door, step into street, move aside etc?

[northernrefugee39]

OK- I sound like an old whinge bucket-BUT I've really noticed in the last few years that OLD or older people- sort of late middle age- which is what I'm heading for- 60's upwards- can have NO MANNERS whatsoever.We often get on the road to let them pass, I force my kids to hold open doors, drag them aside so the old dears can walk through, and very rarely do they acknowlege it- let alone say thankyou, and it bugs me 'cos I bet they'd be the first to have a go at unruly rude mannerless kids of today. Does anyone else think this or is it just a rebellious faction of old people in our town?

Ooh - that kind of rudeness really winds me up too! I must admit though, I've not noticed any age bracket in that sort of ignorance - it seems to span the generations IME!

When people do this to me..and agree it can be any age...I shout "Thank you!!" in a cheery voice after them.

Childish I know but makes me feel better......

Same as TF here too. Plus if anyone barges past me I say in a loud voice "I think the phrase you were looking for is EXCUSE ME!"

Yeah- I often shout "Thanks" too- but it has no effect. There's a kind of - don't think I'm going to thank you - you midle class mother of three with your dirty kids- we worked hard you know, won the war for you.... oh maybe I'm just being ratty..

Me too on the childish shouting of thank-you!......

I don't understand why as humans who can talk as a form of communication that people just mill around in their own little worlds as if others don't exist.

Do you think that's the reason? Or is it some sort of English inhibition, hoighty toighty-(gosh- I've never written that before and I'm sure that's wrong) "don't think you're important" kind of attitude?

It makes me think, "right, next time i'm sticking my foot out!". Although i never remember who it was for next time anyway, dammit.

Yes its so rude!

My gripe the the moment is bus queues. I had been waiting a while today and had been turned away from one bus as there were already 2 buggies on it. While waiting for the next one a HUGE mum with a buggy and a sidekick friend came and stood in front of me, blatently pushed in and got on the next bus!

I usually stand up for myself in these situations but these women were seriously scary and dressed like gang members and I quite like having all my own teeth.

i see this often too - usually respond with a you're welcome.

I am always saying thank you to people especially those that stop when dd2 is running ahead and not looking where she is going - as toddlers are apt to do.

I get very cross when I make sure my dds are polite and remember to say thank you etc and then they see adults be so rude.

My other comment would be - 'excuse me goes a long way'.

I'm sure it does happen across all generations, but older people never seem to acknowledge a door opened for them and it really really annoys me when I hear about the terrible youth of today.

I noticed when pushing a pram, that it was the young people who were far more likey to open a door and I had youths practically run after me to help me up steps.

Nope, its everyone not just the old. Makes me want to slam the door in their face (but I am obviously too well brought up for that ) so I loudly say "THANK YOU". DS (5) has started saying (even louder) "why didn't that man/woman say thank-you? that's not very nice is it".

I also get annoyed when I pull in for other drivers to pass even though I might have right of way over them. Sounds daft but I'd rather they were gone and out of my way. Often though, there's no thank you wave or flashing of lights.

Manners is important but if you're not getting courtesy back nevertheless always maintain your polite standards regardless. (pious emoticon)

agree its all ages, but mostly middle age and older in my experience. i normally say says 'no, thank you' sarcastically, or just tut, and mutter under my breath. dd(7) says it too. there's no excuse, it's just rude!

I like to say 'Your Welcome' very loud, as if I heard them say thank you.

What I hate the most is those people who stand next to you waiting to get past when you haven't seen them and they huff and puff and moan until you get out of their way when a simple excuse me would do the job.

I don't move for those types! I just stand there, back to them and refuse to move til they say "excuse me" !!

This happens to me all the time, and it's not just old people. A woman was walking along the pavement with a pushchair and there wasn't room for us both so I stepped into the road so she could pass. She didn't even so much as glance at me, let alone thank me.
I've found it's the ones you expect to be rude who seem to have the most manners. I was struggling through a shop doorway with DS2 in his buggy when a teenage boy in a hoodie came rushing over to hold the door open for me without even being asked/told. I was .

This extends to litter dropping, too. It's not just the kids--it's often people in middle age and older. Such a bad example.

The politest person I have ever met was a young Asian man who carried my baby buggy up miles of escalator for me. He told me he came from a large family where there were lots of small children and he was used to helping out.

Am consisently touched by all the help I get with the buggy on the tube and overland trains. And from all types - trendy girls, rough looking men with knuckledusters on, hoodies etc

Or the ones that don't give a little wave when you've stopped in the car to let them through. I always wave at them instead

oh in Sicily people are mega rude !!! I'm very polite, hold doors, say thank you etc etc. They have no idea of queues here and will quite happily push you out of the way to get on bus etc (even if ur holding small babies !!). My pet hate is at the supermarket. We have no such thing as 10 items or less queue so people just sidle up and try and push in. I pretend I haven't seen them or use my trolley as a barrier t stop them getting to the check out
On the rare occasion they do ask I happily let them push in !

Yes the car one gets us too- we have a small REALLY old peugot and a filthy people carrier. Around here alot of people have big fat four wheels, and I've noticed that if I pull in to let someone pass when I'm in the 205 I don't even get an acknowlegement of our existance, I might get a hand raised in the vauxhall. It's total snobbery when you're in a car- I'm sure people change. On the street it's slightly different 'cos it's in your face

Well, can i have a slightly different gripe? I hate it when a car driver stops to let you across the road, and sits there waving you across - when the other side of the road is teeming with cars
What am i gonna do? Stand in the middle, buggy and all? When it is not a daft time for people to let me across i always wave and say thanks though (assuming all drivers can lipread!).

I say loudly "don't mention it...oh hang on YOU DIDN'T"

i hate rudeness too.I often shout 'Thankyou' would be nice !'after the person concerned,or explain to my girls in a loud,carrying voice,that what they just witnessed was very rude & that I hope that they will never behave in such an ill mannered fashion.