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Neighbourhood kids chasing each other with big sticks, grandmother angry at me

23 replies

BrownAndSticky · 20/03/2021 17:05

I am purposely avoiding genders and it’s also very identifying. So hi if you recognise this, and no hard feelings, I guess?

I took my kids out for a walk a while ago, we ran into a few children who go to their school. They had a nice time playing football, catch Etc, then it developed into somewhat more ‘play aggressive’ stick fighting Etc.
Throughout most of it the father and occasionally grandparents were there, but towards the end, before they started getting a bit carried away, the adults, other than me, went inside (their garden opens onto the field where they were playing).

After chasing each other with sticks and toy swords, at one point my child got hit, hurt and screamed, they scream a lot, it’s a problem but wasn’t a big deal here really. Although I encouraged my child to go home if they’d had enough they carried on playing, mostly nicely.

There was a big branch that my child had been playing with earlier, in the presence of the father.
Their child then picked up this branch and started to chase my child with it. They were obviously getting a bit boisterous at this time, but I didn’t for one moment think they would hit my child with it. Then my child picked up the stick and went towards the neighbour’s child with it, just as I was telling them to put it down the child’s grandmother came out and shouted at me “why can’t you control your child!?”
I answered that I had told them to put it down and that they’d both been playing with it. She shouted that her grandchild “wasn’t the one chasing them with a big stick.” I answered that they had just them self had the stick and that they were only playing but I had told my child to put it down and that we were going now. She said something else but we were walking away and it’s a blur really. The child shouted some nasty things back about my child.

To be honest I wouldn’t have thought any of this was a big deal really, they were playing nicely for ages, then things started getting a bit too boisterous and so we were going to leave, if she’d have appeared 30 seconds later we’d have been gone. Or if she’d have been watching the whole time she’d have seen that her grandchild had effectively ‘started it’ and would have been there to control them..

This is the first time my children have played with any other children, other than at school, for a year.

My mental health is also shot to hell and this has shaken me up so much. I don’t do confrontation and honestly just getting us out of the house at the moment is a struggle, we had a nice time and now I feel crap.

Was I being unreasonable for letting it get to that stage? All I think I could have done is taken them home the moment they touched the big stick the first time, even though it wasn’t causing any problems at that point, or taken them home as soon as they started play fighting?
Or was I not being unreasonable and someone from their household should have been supervising the kids and stepped in when their child picked up the stick and chased my child with it, and avoided the need to yell at me?

Honestly I think the kids were both giving as much as they were getting, and it ended with them getting cross at each other but if the grandma hadn’t shouted at me and called the child in, my telling my child to put the stick down and that we were going would probably have been enough to let them part ways on friendlier terms, as it happened it became an abrupt, unpleasant, rushed parting.

It’s left me feeling really shitty. My child is wild and was certainly screaming more and doing more random stick things, on their own, while the rest played football, but their child was in no way blameless and hurt my children on a couple of occasions, which was part of the rough games they were all playing willingly so I didn’t feel the need to step in as they were accidental.

But at least I was there, watching, ready to step in. At the end point the other adults were all indoors.

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Barcodes · 20/03/2021 17:12

I'm assuming she saw her grandchild being chased with a stick and reacted. If she didn't see the before bit I can understand why she might have been alarmed.

Honestly I think the playing with sticks is a minefield and probably best discouraged. Its all fun and games until someone gets hurt!

I think possibly it might have been a good idea to go home after the first stick incident, as it might have been then that things started to get out of hand? However I wasn't there and I don't think you should fret too much.

In the kindest way... kids will sometimes play badly in public. Sometimes its your kid with the stick but sometimes its another mum apologising because its your kid being chased.

Please don't worry too much

Barcodes · 20/03/2021 17:14

Also I agree that she should have been supervising her kids as it could have just have easily been your moaning about her kid a few seconds earlier, she just came out at the wrong point!

PatchworkElmer · 20/03/2021 17:20

She should’ve been supervising. I do generally think chasing each other with sticks is an awful idea though! DS tried it earlier on a walk with his friend and I confiscated it straight away.

SeaToSki · 20/03/2021 17:20

Stuff happens

When kids and parents are involved, stuff happens and people get the wrong end of the stick (🤣)

Dont worry, its not you or your dc its just bad timing

If you have a dc who you know has a tendency to get a bit wild and crazy (which is perfectly fine, its how they are made sometimes) then maybe just have some firm rules about never touching another child or holding something in a way that might touch another child. Then be firm on that rule. Job done

Popskipiekin · 20/03/2021 17:24

Ugh. Kids and boisterous play, with sticks. As PP says, it’s always fun and fine until it isn’t.
My DC are both big into collecting and playing with sticks but we discourage play fighting against other kids. Someone’s hand will always end up getting in the way and it ends sourly.
I think you’re more upset because you didn’t know the other dc / adults? If you’d known them you would have been able to explain / apologise better; and, indeed, the adults might have stayed put to chat and been there throughout. You probably already felt responsible for more kids than just your own, and annoyed they had left the parenting up to you (I would have felt that too).

Don’t worry too much, it’s always awkward when your DC (accidentally) hurts another during play, you feel bad but what can you do particularly when each gives as good as the other. Just move on, and you’ve learned something for next time.

WeIcomeToGilead · 20/03/2021 17:26

wtf

i would have stepped in at the sticks being brandished tbh!

StepOutOfLine · 20/03/2021 17:28

6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
I'm surprised that NONE of the adults present (you and the others) stopped the "play aggressive" bit as soon as it started with the sticks.
Theirs started with the sticks, you saw it but it didn't bother you Yours carried on with the sticks, the gran saw it and didn't like it.

Daphnise · 20/03/2021 17:30

Not a good idea to let children play with sticks and then increasingly large sticks- it sounds like a riot was going on by the end, and it all ended badly as most people could have predicted.

VettiyaIruken · 20/03/2021 17:32

It was ridiculous for any of the adults to not put a stop to kids chasing each other with sticks. It should have been obvious that the potential for injury was high

Stompythedinosaur · 20/03/2021 17:37

I think most adults would have intervened to stop any of the dc aggressively chasing anyone else with sticks, that is clearly a recipe for disaster.

SquishySquirmy · 20/03/2021 17:42

Whether the games they were playing were ones the other adults would have approved if are irrelevant, imo, because they weren't supervising and hadn't asked you to supervise. You are not a babysitter.
If you don't supervise your own kids at all (especially when they are playing boisterously with sticks), and bogoff into your house without asking the other parents their if they mind supervising, then you can't really complain about the games they are playing in your absence.

The grandmother sounds like a tit. She's not doing the dc any favours in the long term by refusing to believe they can do anything wrong, and that everything is another child's fault!

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 20/03/2021 17:50

Stop shouldering the blame here. All the kids were playing & her GC was just as involved.

They went inside, they don't get to blame other adults fir not supervising to their standards! Twats.

Don't stress about idiots! Have a nice cup of tea & do something nice with your kids! Don't give the mad bat another thought 💐

PhillipPhillop · 20/03/2021 17:59

Presumably these children play out together a lot and need minimal supervision which is why the adults only popped in and out occasionally. The grandmother probably couldn't believe it when she saw you watching your child chase hers with a stick! You could say that your constant supervision was more lacking than her sporadic supervision. Yes, you are right, you need to read the situation before it gets out of hand. The time to say enough today was when your child chased the other then you wouldn't have had to try and explain your way out of it. Anyway move on and remember for next time.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 20/03/2021 18:08

@PhillipPhillop

Presumably these children play out together a lot and need minimal supervision which is why the adults only popped in and out occasionally. The grandmother probably couldn't believe it when she saw you watching your child chase hers with a stick! You could say that your constant supervision was more lacking than her sporadic supervision. Yes, you are right, you need to read the situation before it gets out of hand. The time to say enough today was when your child chased the other then you wouldn't have had to try and explain your way out of it. Anyway move on and remember for next time.
Are you conveniently missing the bit where the other child was chasing the Zoo's child with the big stick & where the OP's child got hurt??
toomuchtooold · 20/03/2021 18:18

We had some similar nonsense a week or two ago, also over a bloody stick. I think most of the kids have coped with lockdown (and the unlocking) bloody marvellously, can't say the same for some of the parents though.

PhillipPhillop · 20/03/2021 18:23

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants
But op obviously didn't mind her child getting hurt otherwise she would have stopped it at that point! Op says she was there 'ready to step in' but didn't for some reason.

BrownAndSticky · 20/03/2021 18:25

@PhillipPhillop

Presumably these children play out together a lot and need minimal supervision which is why the adults only popped in and out occasionally. The grandmother probably couldn't believe it when she saw you watching your child chase hers with a stick! You could say that your constant supervision was more lacking than her sporadic supervision. Yes, you are right, you need to read the situation before it gets out of hand. The time to say enough today was when your child chased the other then you wouldn't have had to try and explain your way out of it. Anyway move on and remember for next time.
No, my children haven't played out with others for a year, since Lockdown 1 happened. And before that it was only occasionally that they played with the other family, we don't know each other well, but the mum is nice and we occasionally chat, I'd never met the grandparents before today. It is a safe area where in the past I've let my children play alone, not the youngest though, which is mostly why I was there.

I did say enough when my child was chasing theirs with the big branch, but that was after their child had done the same, but the adults hadn't been there to see it. That was the last thing that happened, before we were about to leave.

By 'play aggressive' I don't mean they were being violent or aggressive, they were basically play/sword fighting/fencing, but with sticks/pretend swords that belonged to the other family, and they weren't hitting each other with them, it was just the sticks/swords touching, apart from the one time that their child hit mine. But the sword fighting was getting a bit more...fast and I guess in hindsight I should have stopped it but they were honestly having a nice time, full of giggles, they were just all burning off lots of energy and at the time I didn't think to stop it assumed their family had been watching and were ok with it too?
At no time did either child hit the other with the big branch.

Anyway, thanks for the replies. I know it was 6 of one, half a dozen of the other, it just shook me up being yelled at by a stranger who only saw part of the events. I know we should have all just left earlier.

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BrownAndSticky · 20/03/2021 18:28

[quote PhillipPhillop]@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants
But op obviously didn't mind her child getting hurt otherwise she would have stopped it at that point! Op says she was there 'ready to step in' but didn't for some reason.[/quote]
They were play sword fighting, their child hit mine on the hand rather than the sword, my child screamed, I asked if they've had enough and maybe we should go home, rather than standing there screaming. My child soon cheered up and they carried on playing happily for a while before there was some more thorough stick-sword fighting which eventually turned into the chasing with the big branch.

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MissyB1 · 20/03/2021 18:29

This sort of aggressive play always ends in trouble. I would have withdrawn my child from it or stopped it long before it got that far.

BrownAndSticky · 20/03/2021 18:31

Yep, I have learnt my lesson!

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Butcanyoujusttellme · 20/03/2021 18:32

Literally. Who cares.

Literally nothing happened except this woman got a bit over protective and cranky and then let her grandchild be rude to an adult.

Both kids were playing. No one got hurt.

Try not to worry.

Nameandgamechange123 · 20/03/2021 19:47

Playing with sticks-totally normal isn't it? Kids have been doing this since the beginning of time! I wouldn't worry about it. Like you say, it was not just your kids. You judged the situation as you saw fit. I'm sure you would have stepped in if it all got too crazy.

CreosoteQueen · 20/03/2021 20:18

It does sound like a situation which required earlier intervention to stop it getting out of hand, but that isn’t just on you - the other children ought to have had at least one supervising adult with them too.

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