To be concerned about getting the vaccine next month?

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I am ready for some tough love so feel free to let rip! Basically, I have my vaccine booked for 2nd April (I am mid 30's but identified due to past health history - I am unsure if this is from my skin cancer or bloodclot during pregnancy) and am over worrying now after everything about blood clots in the news. I have read and understand that they are saying it's actually lower than to be expected/small drop in the ocean etc etc but I can't help worrying. I've been working from home and will do so permanently now due to location move through husbands work, so I am feeling a little isolated as we are now 300 miles away from 'home', 'family' and 'friends' and obviously can't see anyone in person at the moment and think that is contributing to how I'm feeling as I'm feeling a little down in general. My husband is lovely but is firmly in the 'it's just a cold' camp and has said he doesn't want to get the vaccine until more information is available - and while he has said to do what I feel is right I know that he doesn't think I should/need to get it. I have no idea if my history of having a blood clot would make it more likely for me to have another in this circumstance - my blood clot was pregnancy related. So I guess my AIBU is should I be worried about getting the vaccine and if so should it be to the extent that I cancel, at least for now!

Try and speak to your GP about your previous history of clotting. It may be that he/she recommends taking aspirin around the time of the vaccine, perhaps. I understand your concerns and I don’t think you’re being unreasonable to be worried, particularly if blood clotting has been an issue in the past.

What I can say is that both my partner and I had covid at the same time in late January. I was lucky and had a relatively symptom-free experience, but even now am finding myself out of breath climbing the stairs. My partner had a miserable experience and for about 48 hours i was really very worried about him. He struggles to walk to work even now. I do recommend the vaccine over taking a risk with getting covid.

Don't cancel. Speak to your GP.

Someone on my FB timeline posted a tweet this morning:

"If you're worried about getting the Astra Zeneca vaccine because 40 out of 17 million have reported (a most unlikely related) clot, do not read the leaflet in a box of paracetamol"

... so yes, YABU! (As is your DH)

Get the vaccine!

Hi

I'm sorry that you've been scared by the recent events.

As you said yourself- The tiny few people (37 out of 17m) is FAR fewer than you'd normally see in 17m of the non vaccinated population, so it could be argued that it prevents blood clots!

Scientists & regulators are not worried. They're FAR more worried about the increase of Covid deaths due to this ridiculous claim & suspension of vaccinations.

It's like saying someone had been hit by a bus AFTER HAVING AZ VACCINE .

Over 20 million doses have been given - what more information would your DH like to have?

The vaccine doesn't stay in your body, it makes your own body create a response to it & build immunity then it buggers off, out of your body. It's practically a year now since people on the trials were first vaccinated, we'd have seen any longer issues by now & 20 million people later, we'd have seen any immediate issues.

Covid IS mild to many, but it's by no means unproblematic for younger people & a lot of people suffering with long Covid are younger.

Don't let the EU's political agenda put you off the vaccine.

As PP said talk to your GP if you have concerns about your particular case.

The risk of getting a blood clot, or any long term side effects, appears to be considerably higher from covid than the vaccine tjough

If you have any predisposition towards clotting, it's a very strong reason to get the vaccine. There is a significant, known connection between Covid and clots, and no evidence of an increased rate of clots because of the vaccine.

From what I've seen reported the % of clots is actually lower than the population average. Ie. Those who'd had the vaccine were less likely to have a blood clot than the average person in the population. But that was only clear when you looked at all the people who've been vaccinated with AstraZeneca as opposed to the smaller country specific populations like in the German reports. Not that I'm suggesting the vaccine lowers the risk, just that there seems to be no evidence it increases any risk.

It's not something I would worry about personally.

Having said that, a call to your GP may be the best bet as they can take your full medical history into account and give the best advice.

Jonathan van Tam read the leaflet out of a paracetamol yesterday. Some of the potential side effects sounded horrendous, and yet most of us take paracetamol with gay abandon.

Based on the European statistics, 5 million people have been vaccinated, among those, 37 cases of blood clots has been reported. That works out as 6 in 1 million only based on that 5 million figure. By contrast, the number of women who are reported as having blood clots after taking the pill is approximately 100 in 1 million. And yet millions of women take the pill and have done for decades.

And that’s before you get to the fact that that statistic is based on a percentage of 5 million recipients, as opposed to the additional 17 million in the UK, none of who have reported blood clots.

I have a minor heart condition and I take a beta-blocker for it. Because of an admin issue my end I ran out of pills. Went to my jab appointment anyway, but took two aspirin about 3 hours before not on GP advice but because until I got my tablets it would keep the blood flowing. I was fortunate in that a pharmacist was doing the admin part and she said I probably did the right thing. If you are unsure ring 111 for advice.

Yabu
You’re far more at risk of getting blood clots after catching covid than from receiving the vaccine

@BIWI

Someone on my FB timeline posted a tweet this morning:

"If you're worried about getting the Astra Zeneca vaccine because 40 out of 17 million have reported (a most unlikely related) clot, do not read the leaflet in a box of paracetamol"

Didn't JVT do exactly that at the briefing yesterday?

I'm sorry you are feeling like this it must be hard. Speak to your GP if you can but please be assured that many people are feeling apprehensive but have weighed everything up and decide to go ahead with the vacine.
I read somewhere that 1 in 6 people who are hospitalised with Covid have blood clots. If you have a history of blood clots it could very serious for you if you got Covid.

Speak to your GP about your medical history.
Otherwise it's really down to you to make an informed decision re risks/benefits. Unfortunately there are many unknown factors. We don't fully know the issues with the vaccines (ie even a well researched vaccine can prove problematic later on for certain people and of course it can also be a completely unexplained incidence of allergy etc) or covid (we know there are potentially long standing issues with covid but that's based on how we've been treating covid so far i.e. asking people to stay at home until v poorly whereas now we're more clued up re treatment options and hopefully can start to be more proactive).

Personally I'll probably opt not to have it on the basis that:
I don't have any risk factor.
By the time I'm offered the vaccine I hope better treatment for Covid will be used routinely
I reacted v badly to one vaccine as a child so I do consider that risk (I've had all other required/essential vaccines though).

But it is really a personal risk assessment. Nobody can or should tell you what to do

BIWI

I’ve posted this on a similar thread already. It isn’t the number of clots that has caused the suspension. It is the “highly unusual” concurrent symptoms: clots, low platelets and bleeding. When you get highly unusual symptoms in a number of recently vaccinated people that aren’t seen in the rest of the population then it needs to be investigated, even if it were just a handful of cases.

Not really sure what your point is BeautifulDay12 - it is being investigated. All 'adverse reactions' always are.

I’ve got an extensive history of clots. I skipped through the doors to get my jab and I shall be skipping through them again to get the second dose. The numbers are so low that there’s nothing to show that those people wouldn’t have got clots anyway and the stats show that you’ve got more chance of getting a clot after contracting Covid than you have after having the vaccine.

My ndn went touring in the UK last Feb. Census day is the first anniversary of his death from Covid. The more of us that have the vaccine are less likely to suffer severe symptoms from the vaccine, need to be hospitalized and prevent patients who need NHS operations or care from getting it.

The benefits of the vaccine far outweigh the risks.

If you don't have a medical reason, then everyone get yourselves vaccinated please.

The press have been a piece of shit with the negativity during covid, and even more so now stirring up the anti-vaxxers' curiosity. Hello BBC News - I'M LOOKING AT YOU!

Yes YABU

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How many of these threads do we need. Can't you just read all the evidence presented on one of those last 5 scared of vaccine threads this week?

The risk of having a blood clot after actual covid is hundreds of times higher than the theoretical risk from the vaccine.

Don’t cancel, speak to your GP re blood clotting concerns, they will be able to reassure you. You are far more likely to get a clot from covid than the vaccine.

Your husband, I am sorry to say, is an idiot. Covid is not a cold - and a mass vaccination programme depends on most people having it - else the vaccine will continue to spread and mutate, thus keeping us on our knees economically. Let him get on with it, but please protect yourself and do your bit by having the vaccine.

My friend with no underlying conditions contracted Covid in January and is now suffering Covid related blood clots. Amongst other problems. She's on blood thinners, possibly now for life, with complications arising from that, at a high risk of bleeding, and the clots still persist. She doesn't yet know what the future holds. Very worrying.
Speak to your gp

BIWI

Not really sure what your point is BeautifulDay12 - it is being investigated. All 'adverse reactions' always are.

It was in response to the comment about number of cases being 40 out of 17 million. A lot of people have been arguing that they shouldn’t have suspended the vax, but that’s what happens in drug trials, and the massive trial is ongoing.

YABU.