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To be worried about my children emotionally with ex narcissistic man as a father?

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Anon2323 · 18/03/2021 11:12

I can’t completely safeguard them emotionally. It didn’t take me long to work out who he really was. He put me through hell during court and even has a child of ours living with him. His abuse I couldn’t even explain, threatening but would do and say stuff then later say he never said it. Totally character assisnated me and still does to the kids saying I done some incredibly horrible stuff to them. the system doesn’t understand this type of abuse goodness I didn’t and I was in the midst of it, when I reported it he turned it around on me even worse. He scared me but never actually was physical. He was awful with the kids but I didn’t see it all , it was weird he could be so good and yet such a monster I can’t explain like July and Hyde. The poor kids but they have to see him a lot and I’m so worried, they are very young. He buys them stuff, days out etc so he is great in some respects. He has a new partner so I’m hoping he stops saying stuff about me and forgets me to be honest in fact I actually want him to find happiness and change for the children.

He tried to take my kids from me and used them against me. Left me homeless and no money. I can’t even begin to say how 2 years later I’m picking up again but there are days it’s still bad especially when kids say something he said and I just don’t say anything except well mummy didn’t do that. It’s awful.

Is there anything I can do ? I don’t know anyone who has this, split from Partner yes and maybe not on good terms but believe me my ex has hatred in him, he even told me so. I set my boundaries with him but it’s through the kids mainly and as they get older could it get worse?

The professionals can’t see anything wrong as he is very Polite, no addictions and a good job. Other members of his family will not let their kids see him but it’s only those who are close or eventually get close that end up in a bad way with him at least emotionally.

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Princessbanana · 18/03/2021 20:09

Honestly? I don’t think you’ll like what I have to say but I had to answer this as I grew up with a father like him, only difference is, my mum wasn’t as good as you and she’s still with him. You will be stuck with this until the kids are 18 but mark my words, they will see him for exactly what he is and they will cut him off! Just keep being a good mum, don’t bitch about him on front of them, don’t drag them into your shit or make them pick a side, just keep doing what your doing and they will eventually see sense! When they have their own children they will not what that piece of shit in their lives!

Anon2323 · 19/03/2021 15:07

@Princessbanana

Honestly? I don’t think you’ll like what I have to say but I had to answer this as I grew up with a father like him, only difference is, my mum wasn’t as good as you and she’s still with him. You will be stuck with this until the kids are 18 but mark my words, they will see him for exactly what he is and they will cut him off! Just keep being a good mum, don’t bitch about him on front of them, don’t drag them into your shit or make them pick a side, just keep doing what your doing and they will eventually see sense! When they have their own children they will not what that piece of shit in their lives!
Gosh I’m sorry you had to put up with that but your mum how does she stay? It’s soil destroying literally.

Yeah other members of his family keep their kids away from him and his mother as she is same 🙄 and even she told my eldest something terrible that a family member did and she has a video! But they deny saying it of course after they have planted seeds, making a child think they imagined it. It’s abuse and so hard to proof. I have to say I’m worried but as you say I have to be a good person as mum and not power myself to their standards

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lobster8 · 19/03/2021 15:24

I'm in a similar situation with my exH. He was emotionally abusive to me, and I fear he is to our DD5 too. I think he is doing his best effort to alienate her from me and my family. It's a difficult situation and I can see a marked increase in her reaction when she has more time with him (e.g. school holidays) but it's very insidious and subtle and I know I could never really prove it or get anywhere with it in court.

Honestly, I mainly try and breathe through it and hope for the bloody best. I work hard to be the best mother I can, provide unconditional love and support and validate her feelings. I never ever say a bad word about him, not even an eye roll. If I'm asked a direct question about something that's untrue I'll say "that's not what happened" or "I didn't do that" but never anything about lies. I never lie to her (beyond Father Christmas!) and try to build the best trust I can between us. Lots of self care, and supportive friends, family and DP who I can vent my frustrations, fears and woes to about it all. I personally think I can just try to be the best mum I can, and hope and prayer that one day she sees it all for what it is.

Jbon9087 · 19/03/2021 17:08

It's time society properly acknowledged this mental disorder ie Court system, Judges, Psychiatrists etc because its not as if we haven't seen how dangerous it is with the likes of Trump etc and the total devastation it causes. 4000 Kids in jail in “state sanctioned child abuse", hundreds of thousands of covid deaths etc. The best contribution Trump's made is pulling this mental condition into the light.

How could you and most people have known about it before, let alone protected yourself, when the media and psychologists were silent about it? NPD has been in the medical books for about 60 years, but who told us? Maybe because it affects men approx 8/10 is why society is so tolerant… and silent about it and the danger it poses.

I’m sorry you sound so devastated.Flowers The only thing I can say is there is a way forward for you. There’s lots of good info on youtube, and the internet - borrow Mary Trump’s book from the library. Start getting yourself clued in because you will lose if you try to play his game of lying, cheating, gaslighting, slandering you etc etc. Society is geared up for men just like him, but you don’t have to feel beaten like this forever and Information is your power.

Use 3rd platforms to communicate with him like Family Wizard or similar so it keeps a record. Boundaries are your keys to self protection so start building them. He’s mission will be to break yours down which is why you can’t chit chat with him ever (no matter how nice he’s being today) no debates etc. What’s really to discuss except pick-up and drop off times?!

Never fall into the trap of slanging him off to the kids and family because he's waiting to use that against you, and sometimes family members will support him over you. When he has your kids focus on YOU... building a stronger, happier you and use the time to do your homework. Keep records!!!

The bright side of these Jekyll and Hyde monsters is they force you to do the work of boundary building AND with that knowledge you can begin teaching your kids. So when other 5 year olds are worrying about barbie, you’re teaching them emotional resilience. Start saying "How does it make you feel?” talk about their feelings, listen deeply to them, get REALLY good at it because he won’t. He can’t. He never will.

Psychologists believe that kids can grow to be very balanced and highly resilient as long as they have ONE sound parent / parent figure to balance out a narc parent and it sounds like you’re it. When they ask about him say things like "He's your father not mine, you’re entitled to your opinion no-one can say its wrong.” etc etc. Legitimise their feelings, never gas light their emotions because he’ll be doing it ALL OF THE TIME. Teach them values over things to empower them against your ex and other predators..

Lean in to strengthening your kids inner voice and outer opinion because frankly, as a society I think we’re really crap at this and its time we did much better. This is your opportunity to get ahead of the game. Play the long game. As others said TRUST your kids will eventually see the wanker he really is and nobody loves a wanker.

Remember he’s just a conman, and one day your kids will figure him out. Start getting ready and STRONG now to support them for when he inevitably blows himself up as malignant narcissists will ALWAYS do.

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