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Neighbour throwing cat poo into my garden

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anticatwoman · 16/03/2021 11:41

I think my cat hating neighbour has thrown bagged cat poo into my back garden. It would be cat poo from my cats who like to shit in her lovely lovely garden.

I have two children under three and we were playing in the garden this morning when I spotted the bag (looked like a fragranced sanitary bag) in the top corner of our garden filled with what is most definitely cat turds - although I couldn't confirm if they are from my cats of course.

We've lived here 3 years. Had cats for two. She's a proud gardener and my entitled cats love to shit in her vegetable patch and play on her lawn. I've seen her chasing them off/ throwing water at them, putting chicken wire and spikes on the fence to try and stop them getting over. They enjoy the challenge. If I see them in her garden I try to entice them back to mine with treats. As long as she isn't hurting them I don't mind her chasing them off. Not everyone loves cats and that's fine. It's complicated by the fact the old lady next door again loves my cats and frequently lets them in and spoils them. So our shared neighbour's garden is a passage way to tastier cat food and non stop affection.

My back fence is very tall and has no back access. It backs on to a main-ish road. After my back fence is a little stone wall about a metre tall which is filled with prickly blackberry bushes, then the path, then the road. My point being here is that if a dog walker was going to dump a bag of poo from the main road they could easily toss it into the blackberry bushes and not be noticed rather than throwing it miles over my fence to land in my garden. My other next door neighbour has a scary dog so my cats don't dare visit that garden.

I can't prove it's her but the fact that it's cat poo and where it's landed makes it quite probable. I have an indoor and outdoor litter tray but cannot control where they roam.

Whilst I sympathise it's annoying for her, I'm not breaking any law whereas I think she is by throwing things into my garden? If she's going to the trouble of bagging it why not just bin it instead of acting out of spite?

What should I do? Clear it up and forget it? Wait to see if more shows up? Loudly proclaim in the garden that I'm checking cctv for the culprit? Ask her directly? I've clearly and calmly explained to my cats not do do it anymore and am hopeful the message has got through.

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TinyTroubleMaker · 16/03/2021 17:41

I can see how it might be funny if you're not experiencing it like this, but when it's stopped to be your home and you can't use it and it's this bad, it's really upsetting.

InfoInfoInfo · 16/03/2021 17:48

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MissSeventies · 16/03/2021 17:59

OP I think your neighbour is being VU. TLDR on the whole thread but some of the replies on this are shocking. Someone smugly suggested that they would throw it at your window as if their righteous indignation at cats absolves them of criminal damage.

There are millions of cats in the UK and many in every street. It is something people have to live with if they live on a street or a development just like leaves blowing off trees, washing flapping on lines, dogs barking and people washing their cars. The best your neighbour could have hoped for was an amicable relationship with you which she has clearly thrown out the window or over the fence so to speak.

I too am an avid gardener in a neighbourhood with plenty of cats. I have only occasionally dug up poo and you know what I shut up and moved on. The occasional inconvenience is not worth a years long war of attrition with your next door neighbour something yours would do well to think about.

Staffy1 · 16/03/2021 18:02

Good grief, the entitlement of some cat owners. You can't help where your cat wanders, but you can do a bit more to get it to go in your property. Cat litter trays with cat crap in them to encourage it to go there. Also, why would you object to it being returned to your garden instead of left in someone else's? If you don't like your own cats crap (bagged) in your garden, you can imagine no one else wants it unbagged in their garden. I can't believe your neighbour felt guilted into apologising, you should have been the one apologising.

Flumps44 · 16/03/2021 18:05

@anticatwoman - Cat threads never go down well on here, you will get told to tell your cat not to poop in other people’s gardens (because we all know cats understand human language!) lock it away (because they clearly don’t share the same rights as humans!) and not to own one.
There will be very little constructive advice, it will just be an excuse for misery’s to vent at you.
Humans are a selfish species.
The truth is we do far worse than your average cat.

Knitterbabe · 16/03/2021 18:10

When we moved house we provided a litter tray for our two cats while we kept them inside for a few days. They were soon keen to get outside and immediately resumed using the garden instead. Just because there is a tray, it doesn't mean they use it. Cats are very clean creatures and most, unless unwell, don’t like to soil there own area.

Gobbeldegook · 16/03/2021 18:36

Well we don't want them soiling our area either

Wondermule · 16/03/2021 18:38

@Staffy1

Good grief, the entitlement of some cat owners. You can't help where your cat wanders, but you can do a bit more to get it to go in your property. Cat litter trays with cat crap in them to encourage it to go there. Also, why would you object to it being returned to your garden instead of left in someone else's? If you don't like your own cats crap (bagged) in your garden, you can imagine no one else wants it unbagged in their garden. I can't believe your neighbour felt guilted into apologising, you should have been the one apologising.
I know. They’re all ‘they’re just doing what cats naturally do’ blah blah, but get annoyed when your dog chases them 😞
Babycakes39 · 16/03/2021 18:43

Wow! I can't believe you're asking if she's in the wrong?! They're your cats!! I think you've got an absolute cheek to not even be embarrassed by it! You should go and apologise to them if you want to have a good relationship with your neighbours! 🤦🏼‍♀️

crossstitchingnana · 16/03/2021 18:49

This is one of those "only on Mumsnet" occasions. In real life cats shit where they can. It is the garden owner's responsibility to deter them, clear it up and dispose of it. The majority of posters are batshit.

Knitterbabe · 16/03/2021 18:53

@Gobbeldegook
I understand that, and addressed it in a previous post. I was replying to the post that suggested providing a litter tray would solve the problem.

JustAddCoffee91 · 16/03/2021 19:01

Nothing to add at all but this thread has made me laugh! 😂😂

MadeOfStarStuff · 16/03/2021 19:03

YABVU

why on earth do cat owners expect other people to clean up after the pet they chose to have? If your neighbour wanted to clean up cat shit she would have a cat. Your cats shit should be your problem. Good on her for taking a stand.

Advic3Pl3as3 · 16/03/2021 19:06

From the RSPCA.....
Cats are protected by law and are free to roam meaning they might go into other people's gardens or allotments. It is understood that some may wish to deter other people's cats from those areas.

In attempting to prevent cats from entering a garden or an allotment it is important to make sure that any deterrent methods used are non­harmful and don't cause pain, suffering, injury or distress. Causing unnecessary suffering to a cat is an offence under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. It may also be an offence to put down snares, poison or an unlicensed deterrent. The AWA also prohibits poisoning protected animals. The maximum penalty for anyone found guilty of an offence under the AWA is up to 6 months imprisonment and/or a £20,000 fine.

Some suggestions which could help you are:
● Cultivate shrubs closely to make it more difficult for cats to find a
place to dig
● Cultivate prickly plants or place clippings of prickly or thorny plants
in any gaps on your flowerbed
● Keep flowerbeds watered as some cats don't like wet earth
● Consider covering parts of the garden that you do not want the cat
to toilet in with stone chippings, pebbles, small rocks or netting
over the top
● Shoo a cat away by either shouting or clapping your hands when
you see them enter your garden
● Squirt water near the cat, not at the cat using a low powered water pistol, super soakers are not suitable.The intention is to give them a fright and not to hurt them. Try to remain hidden from view if you spray an unwanted cat in your garden; if they learn to associate you with the negative experience rather than the garden itself they may simply wait until you are not around before happily entering. It could also cause the cat to be afraid of people.
● Install an automatic garden spray, triggered by an infra­red detector which locates movement ­ you can find these online
● Attempt to make it difficult for cats to enter the garden through use of high, close­boarded fences. Patch up any holes in any fencing.
● Do not to start feeding someone else's cat if you do not want him
around as this will likely encourage the cat
● The owner of the cat may be able to help by ensuring their cat is
neutered and has suitable latrine sites within its own garden.

If possible and appropriate, it may be helpful to have a courteous conversation with the owner.

There are also a variety of approved cat repellent products on the market but if you do decide to use one please make sure it's a licensed product and that it is used in strict accordance with the manufacturer's guidelines and instructions ­ failure to follow these may lead to an offence being committed and could result in unnecessary suffering being caused to the cat.

We would not recommend using ‘homemade’ remedies or deterrents as their use may infringe legislation and regulations, particularly if it causes actual harm to the cat. In addition, the true negative or toxic effects of these remedies is likely to be unknown.

Where the land adjoins a footpath or bridleway, a landowner must not put up barbed wire on land where it is likely to injure persons or animals using the public highway. In such cases, the local authority can take action against the landowner.

If you wish to make an allegation of nuisance regarding a neighbour’s cat, then the relevant provisions are contained in the Environmental Protection Act 1990. You should refer such complaints about the cat to the Local Authority.

This is obviously not to say that cat owners shouldn’t try to encourage their cats to toilet in their own garden. Mine don’t go out at night and generally toilet during the early morning in their litter trays, though one does go in my garden where I have made an outdoor area for them sometimes.

You might not like cats but there’s no excuse for animal cruelty, like some of you are posting.

HeckyPeck · 16/03/2021 19:07

Slug pellets.. which you are allowed to use to get rid of slugs

This shouldn't need saying, but don't use slug pellets to try and poison cats. Or at all in fact. They kill hedgehogs and their numbers are in massive decline.

Pebbledashery · 16/03/2021 19:08

I'd be doing what your neighbour was doing if I was her. You should've taught your cats not to go in her garden or taught your neighbour how to humanely shoo them off.

Mangofandangoo · 16/03/2021 19:12

@Lampzade

Make sure your cats poo in your own garden.
Have you ever met a cat?
Serin · 16/03/2021 19:13

I have a cat. We trained it to poo in our garage in a covered tray. It stays in at night.
Next door have 6 and they crap all over our (previously) beautiful garden. We cant grow veg anymore. They also wake us up at night yowling, repeatedly, which isn't funny when I've been working long shifts on a Covid ward all through lockdown. They have seriously come close to making me mentally Ill and no one should have to put up with that. If it was teenagers disturbing our sleep I would ring the police, but cat owners just get away with everything.
There have been times (usually 3am) when I have seriously considered shooting the little bastards.
The sooner we join Australia in banning outdoor cats, the better.

Mangofandangoo · 16/03/2021 19:13

Could you get some of those rollers that go on the top of a fence to stop them climbing up?

SwimmingOnEggshells · 16/03/2021 19:26

@MissSeventies

OP I think your neighbour is being VU. TLDR on the whole thread but some of the replies on this are shocking. Someone smugly suggested that they would throw it at your window as if their righteous indignation at cats absolves them of criminal damage.

There are millions of cats in the UK and many in every street. It is something people have to live with if they live on a street or a development just like leaves blowing off trees, washing flapping on lines, dogs barking and people washing their cars. The best your neighbour could have hoped for was an amicable relationship with you which she has clearly thrown out the window or over the fence so to speak.

I too am an avid gardener in a neighbourhood with plenty of cats. I have only occasionally dug up poo and you know what I shut up and moved on. The occasional inconvenience is not worth a years long war of attrition with your next door neighbour something yours would do well to think about.

All of this ^^
Bloodypunkrockers · 16/03/2021 19:30

@Sparklingbrook

It's been a whole week since we had one that's the thing, I think it's been way longer than that. I was starting to worry.
Yes you're right. 5th March so a wee bit longer than a week

Same old shit though

Sootybear · 16/03/2021 19:35

OP you know your cat poos in your nextdoor neighbours garden. Just go round, offer to clear it up. Your neighbour should have spoken to you about the problem rather than chuck it over the fence, but you could sort this out by communication. My old cat who never goes anywhere poos in my garden and everyday I go out there and clear it up, plus all the other cats poo. I don't know who's cats but tbh it's better than the dog poo left on the pavement outside my old house, ready for stepping in whenever anyone came round. Anyway my garden has fox poo, hedgehog poo, all sorts. It's life. Just to add if you feed your cat decent food their poo is not so nearly as offensive.

InfoInfoInfo · 16/03/2021 19:36

@Serin

I have a cat. We trained it to poo in our garage in a covered tray. It stays in at night. Next door have 6 and they crap all over our (previously) beautiful garden. We cant grow veg anymore. They also wake us up at night yowling, repeatedly, which isn't funny when I've been working long shifts on a Covid ward all through lockdown. They have seriously come close to making me mentally Ill and no one should have to put up with that. If it was teenagers disturbing our sleep I would ring the police, but cat owners just get away with everything. There have been times (usually 3am) when I have seriously considered shooting the little bastards. The sooner we join Australia in banning outdoor cats, the better.
Oh my - Australia has a ban on outdoor cats - brilliant - we need to follow this.
Sparklingbrook · 16/03/2021 19:37

@Bloodypunkrockers oh I must have missed that one. They are all the same though. Grin

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