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Why is it men?

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mybodyistempura · 14/03/2021 11:48

Why is it that violence, rape, sexual assault, paedophilia, is disproportionately carried out my males ( including male on male)?

Is it entirely caused by social conditioning/ treatment of men or are genetics playing a part?

There has to be a reason why. Is anyone looking at the root cause of this behaviour?

We must keep highlighting the dangers women ( and children) face every day, but what is actually being done to understand this quite obvious flaw in our unbalanced society?

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Curiosity101 · 14/03/2021 12:00

I feel like genetics could potentially predispose some men to higher levels of certain thoughts/feelings/urges but 99.99% of it has to be learnt/taught behaviour surely?

Humans are complex creatures, unless you (men or women) have a medical issue affecting your cognitive reasoning then everything you do is a choice. I'm not sure what research is being undertaken in the area, I'm sure a quick google would tell you though.

TheBuffster · 14/03/2021 12:31

There's a book, Less Than Human: Why We Demean, Enslave, and Exterminate Others
Book by David Livingstone Smith, which looks at the behaviour on humans and chimps which puts some interesting points across. As I recall, it concedes that it's a mix of nature and harassing that darkness for their own ends with nurture. Very interesting on how soldiers can simultaneously regard the enemy as inhuman while regarding the women as sexual fodder for rape.

mybodyistempura · 14/03/2021 12:43

Thank you @TheBuffster I would be interested to read that.

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BraveGoldie · 14/03/2021 13:11

I think a large proportion of it is linked to biology. That does not mean it is excusable or there is not personal responsibility - but male dominance of violent offences stretches across all periods in history and all cultures.... so suggesting it is more social conditioning doesn't make sense to me.

Male and female bodies are different, as is the chemistry that fuels them. Even the social conditioning is built on top of, in response to, those biological differences.....

MarshmallowAra · 14/03/2021 13:26

More testosterone.

Different brain.

More sexually motivated.

More aggressive.

More likely to be sociopaths.

Etc etc.

HijabiVenus · 14/03/2021 13:30

Yes. This is the issue that if and when addressed will lead to a much better world.

What we have in the uk is not great, there are a lot lot worse places though. If there are better places it would be interesting to know what they are getting right.

Helendee · 14/03/2021 13:31

@MarshmallowAra

Spot on.

MasterBeth · 14/03/2021 13:36

@MarshmallowAra

More testosterone.

Different brain.

More sexually motivated.

More aggressive.

More likely to be sociopaths.

Etc etc.

Generally physically more powerful.

So more able to impose their will on women through violence, the threat of violence or the possibility of violence.

Whataboutnodontyouunderstand · 14/03/2021 13:56

Base biology plays a massive part in my opinion, you only have to look at chimps/gorilla's to see the relation.
Testosterone encourages violent/aggressive behaviour, the reason young lads -'show off' to each other, commit adultery etc but...many/most men grow up to learn better. Society/learnt behaviour has made them less likely to act on base instincts, some have better control than others though. You can't change the base nature of any biological animal including us, there will always be some that embrace that animalistic nature.

Its why I do believe that in some ways there has to be a deturrent, should we have to... No but its a necessity.

The rape-aXe is genius, barbed insert for women, if raped the barbs penetrate and he has to go to hospital to get in removed, make these more common place, talk about them even own one, then when someone loses the fight against whatever 'urge' : they have they will think twice incase someone is wearing one..... Currently there is very little deturrent unfortunately due to his word against theirs, victim blaming culture and all that, this is a clear indication they didn't want sex! Otherwise they would remove it!

jcyclops · 14/03/2021 14:16

It's predominantly biological due to testosterone and other androgens. It starts with exposure in the womb. There is a strong correlation between finger length especially 2D:4D ratio and testosterone exposure (short index finger and long ring finger gives a low 2D:4D ratio and higher aggression and other "male" traits).

However, even though it is natural and hormonal doesn't mean it should be accepted as an excuse for bad behaviour, just as hormones should not be accepted as an excuse for a female's behaviour.

mybodyistempura · 14/03/2021 14:18

@Whataboutnodontyouunderstand
I agree with most of what you've said. It most probably is testosterone driven subsequently not stamped out by nurture or learned behaviour.

It's shocking that this isn't discussed more often. It's worrying that we are also entering an era where talking about the differences between men and women is becoming taboo.

A barbed insert is horrific and won't stop men wanting to or trying to rape women. That's not tackling the root cause, men will just use violence to remove them

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georgarina · 14/03/2021 14:33

Testosterone causes more aggression and a higher sex drive.

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