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AIBU to wonder about shared memories?

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cluckandcollect · 13/03/2021 09:39

30 years ago I worked with a colleague I'll call Rachel. We've kept in touch over the years — usually just Christmas cards with a note or an occasional email — until about six months ago she phoned for a chat and since then we've video-chatted every few weeks. It's fine except for the fact that every so often she refers to an event or something I said or did that I can't for the life of me remember. And these things are never good things. So, for example, we were talking about going to another colleague's wedding and she talked about me having too much to drink and her needing to stop the car on the way home so that I could be sick. I have no memory of that at all. She says well of course I don't remember, I was drunk. I do have a vague memory of taking the tube to Hendon in my dress and hat and being picked up in a car by another colleague, who dropped me back there on the way home, but according to Rachel this must have been some other event. I can't for the life of me think what other event I needed a hat for. She also refers to the times I took days off work because of heavy periods. 'Oh', she says, 'you were dreadful, always using your period as an excuse to have a couple of days off work or not to do things'. Not only do I have no recollection of this, but I was always pretty lucky on the period front: not much pain and not much blood. I've never, that I can remember, had time off for that reason.

My sister does this to me too. On a family Zoom a couple of months ago she told a story about me reversing my car over a steep kerb and doing serious damage to the underside. Everyone was laughing. I didn't say anything at the time but in private I reminded her that it wasn't me who had done that. I'd lent my car to an uncle and aunt who were visiting from New Zealand and they'd had the kerb incident. I remember the hassle with their insurer and how long it took to get the car fixed and how bad they felt about it. They're both dead now, otherwise I'd ask them to confirm my side of the story. I told my sister this and she remains convinced she's remembered it accurately. She also 'remembers' one time when we all went to a rented house in Cornwall for a major birthday family get-together and I was supposed to bring a lasagne and instead turned up with chicken pie, which annoyed her because she'd made a chicken pie too. I have no recollection at all of that get-together and I'm not in any of the photos. I'm pretty sure I was working abroad at the time. One of my cousins, who did go, doesn't remember me being there and says she took a chicken pie, as instructed by my sister. But my sister is insistent that her version of events is the right one. There are dozens of other minor stories like this, all showing me up as incompetent or thoughtless.

Does this kind of thing happen to anyone else? How do you deal with it? I've done loads of stupid and embarrassing things I do remember and I hold my hand up to them without flinching, but I'm increasingly irritated at having things I'm pretty sure I didn't do held against me. I don't think Rachel or my sister are doing this purposely or consciously. When someone is regularly misremembering stuff about you, and it's negative, what's really going on?

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Carolina24 · 13/03/2021 09:54

People misremember things all the time so that isn’t especially unusual - but I think both your sister and Rachel are unkind to drag up seemingly minor ‘transgressions’ from years ago for no good reason.

cluckandcollect · 13/03/2021 10:09

Yes, I know that memory is far less reliable than people assume. So I'm not being weird to wonder why it is that Rachel, in particular, is choosing to misremember me? I'm pretty sure she's confusing me with someone else we worked with. It's doesn't feel like a good basis for continuing a friendship, is it, if when I say no, that wasn't me you remember being sick by the side of the road, she insists it is.

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Carolina24 · 13/03/2021 10:11

It does sound like she has confused you with someone else! It’s worth remembering that her memory may feel as clear and real and reliable as your own, which may be why she’s not backing down - especially if she’s not trying to be unkind and is just reminiscing (even though it understandably doesn’t feel good for you).

You can end at friendship at any time if it isn’t working for you, and I understand why this feels frustrating and upsetting. Its up to you to decide if you want to persevere or just let it drift.

AdaFuckingShelby · 13/03/2021 10:13

This happens to me too. Some people remember kind and positive things, others have told me things they found hillarious because I made a tit of myself. Apparrently.
I don't bother with anyone in the latter group.

Chimoia · 13/03/2021 10:15

Memory is so unreliable. If she doesn't accept 'you've got me mixed up with someone else' then I would bow out saying 'your recollection of me is so far off base I don't think it will support a continuing friendship.'

Notanotherhun · 13/03/2021 10:18

My MIL is the holder of memory and truth, she insists that events from 20+ years ago can be remembered by people when most people have no idea! It's dangerous when one version of events trumps another.

Warrickdaviesasplates · 13/03/2021 13:51

My MIL and Dhs Grandma both do this. It drives me mad as some of the things they remember are simply not possibly true.

It's incredibly infuriating but I've just started saying "that wasn't me but ok" / "that's not how I remember it but fine" / "I wasn't there so you must be mistaken". Don't get drawn into a discussion about it though, just dismiss and move on.

I agree with PP that it's mean of them to bring up things to try and make you look bad and I'd probably be inclined to distance the friendship because of it.

Alcemeg · 13/03/2021 14:25

I get this quite a bit. I think you can get labelled as the comedian of the family, so even if it wasn't you, they enjoy the story of saying it was.

Alcemeg · 13/03/2021 14:27

Re your friend Rachel, her comments collectively do make it sound rather as though she doesn't respect you very much.

I dislike it when the reflection I get in the mirror of someone else's perception is like being forced to wear a huge grotesque hat.

katy1213 · 13/03/2021 14:32

Does it matter? Chicken pie from donkey's years ago - who cares?

honeylulu · 13/03/2021 15:03

My mother does this. Embarrassing or bad things that happened to my golden child sister she "remembers" as happening to me. It's as if she wants to use the hilarious anecdote but finds it more palatable if it happened to me.

cluckandcollect · 13/03/2021 16:23

Really pleased this doesn't just happen to me. My sister and I have a tricky relationship and she has a tendency to undermine me to make herself feel better, so I almost expect it from her. She brings up the chicken pie thing whenever I don't do as instructed and doesn't realise how petty it makes her look. I think Rachel's for the chop. If I told someone a story about themselves and they refuted it I'd apologise and assume I've misremembered. To carry on insisting it was me seems to indicate a fundamental lack of respect, as a PP pointed out.

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M0rT · 13/03/2021 16:41

I don't mind when people have different memories to me of events we were both at, even if they remember me doing something stupid drunk which I have succeeded in forgetting.
It is normal for people to experience the same event from different perspectives.
But when I know my memory is correct and theirs is wrong rather than a different perspective I tend to think it's distorted through the lens in which they view me and if it is not positive it does change my trust in them.
If I thought they were my friend and thought well of me, multiple misremembered negative stories would make me re-think that idea.

user1471554720 · 13/03/2021 17:35

What if you played Rachel at her own game, misremembered a story involving het being silly and thoughtless. She will correct you and you can refuse to back down. That will tell you a lot about her. If she falls out with you over it, all the better!

I think she is doing a subtle form of bullying/messing with your head. If you defend yourself then she will say that you DID do insert thoughtless/silly action. If you insist or get angry then you look bad. It is a subtle way of annoying someone and getting 'away with it'. At best she is a frenemy. I would be wary.

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