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To be narked by tuh replacing the word to.

55 replies

TheHateIsNotGood · 12/03/2021 17:40

We have recently put up with the overuse of 'clearly', swiftly followed by words ending in 'ing' metamorphing into words ending in 'in'.

Now the word 'to' has become 'tuh'.

Am I the only one?

YANBU - you've noticed this too
YABU - nope not noticed

OP posts:
VienneseWhirligig · 12/03/2021 17:43

Isn't it just accents?

MrsTulipTattsyrup · 12/03/2021 17:44

Both your examples - the non-articulation of the terminal g, and the pronunciation of to as ‘tuh’ are perfectly normal in many British accents. Are you expecting that everyone should speak with an RP accent? Life would be very dull.

SaskiaRembrandt · 12/03/2021 17:48

We have recently put up with the overuse of 'clearly'

Have we? Clearly I missed this development.

SenecaFallsRedux · 12/03/2021 17:48

It's always been "tuh" in many instances, at least in my accent. It's a schwa (I think), very common in pronunciation of English for many words.

TheHateIsNotGood · 12/03/2021 17:59

Clearly I maybe the only that has noticed this quite recent development, my 2 other examples were noticed by others here too.

The change I've noticed is not about 'accents' but those that previously said "to" are now saying "tuh".

Mostly amongst high-profile figures, primarily based in London, and the (primarily London-based) Media that interviews them. I only hear it on the Telly and Radio, not in my day to day life (not in London).

OP posts:
Cattenberg · 12/03/2021 18:11

I pronounce an unstressed to as “tuh”, but a stressed to as “too”.

I don’t stress “to” very often. I do if I want to distinguish it from another preposition e.g. “from”. And I think I also would when announcing a surprise, “We’re Going To... Alton Towers!”.

I also hear myself pronouncing “have” in two different ways, even within the same sentence. E.g. “have to have” comes out as “haff to have”.

NuniaBeeswax · 12/03/2021 18:16

I haven't noticed tuh be honest.

SaskiaRembrandt · 12/03/2021 18:43

@TheHateIsNotGood

Clearly I maybe the only that has noticed this quite recent development, my 2 other examples were noticed by others here too.

The change I've noticed is not about 'accents' but those that previously said "to" are now saying "tuh".

Mostly amongst high-profile figures, primarily based in London, and the (primarily London-based) Media that interviews them. I only hear it on the Telly and Radio, not in my day to day life (not in London).

I'm saying this kindly - is it possible that with lockdown you have too much time on your hands and are now picking on things that previously you ignored?
SenecaFallsRedux · 12/03/2021 18:43

I think it would sound very odd and affected to fully enunciate the preposition "to" in every instance. Certainly the reduction in sound for the word has been around for a long time in all types of English (i.e. British, American, etc.)

It's similar to using "thuh" instead of the full pronunciation of "the," which is also a common feature of English.

SaskiaRembrandt · 12/03/2021 18:44

That's too as in too, not too as in tuh.

LadyCatStark · 12/03/2021 18:47

None of these things are new! Do you really think people have only recently begun to drop the ‘g’ at the end of ‘ing’?? Tuh is definitely normal in northern accents at least or t’ if you’re from Yorkshire.

Taborlin · 12/03/2021 21:07

@TheHateIsNotGood

Clearly I maybe the only that has noticed this quite recent development, my 2 other examples were noticed by others here too.

The change I've noticed is not about 'accents' but those that previously said "to" are now saying "tuh".

Mostly amongst high-profile figures, primarily based in London, and the (primarily London-based) Media that interviews them. I only hear it on the Telly and Radio, not in my day to day life (not in London).

Today 17:40TheHateIsNotGood

We have recently put up with the overuse of 'clearly',

GrinGrinGrin Biscuit
Yes op, we clearly we have had to put up with the over use of the word clearly, haven't we.
I live the hypocrisy of MN posters. It's the only thing that keep me coming back

PaperMonster · 12/03/2021 21:41

My OH and his family have always pronounced it tuh - just assumed it was because of where his parents were from.

Laggartha · 12/03/2021 21:45

How else are tuh and thuh pronounced??

StepOutOfLine · 12/03/2021 21:52

Giving "to" a neutral schwa ending instead of a full /u/ is (as many have said) a perfectly correct and widespread form of connected speech in English and every native speaker does it. If they don't, then they sound like a robot.

An end syllable "-ng" is unlikely to be pronounced as n+g for the simple fact that it's pronounced as a single voiced velar nasal combining the n+g. Not totally universal, but pretty much. Again, people who don't do it sound a bit robotic. (try saying "singing" as you'd normally say it, then say it giving the "n" and the "g" their "full" pronunciation. You sound like an idiot.

No idea what the perceived problem with "clearly" is.

StepOutOfLine · 12/03/2021 21:55

@MrsTulipTattsyrup

Both your examples - the non-articulation of the terminal g, and the pronunciation of to as ‘tuh’ are perfectly normal in many British accents. Are you expecting that everyone should speak with an RP accent? Life would be very dull.
They're pronounced like that in RP as well. Actually, the weak vowels in connected speech (which is what seems to be giving the OP the vapours) is massively common in posh speak, more so than in pleb speak.
DaysAreGettingLongerNow · 12/03/2021 21:56

Giving "to" a neutral schwa ending instead of a full /u/ is (as many have said) a perfectly correct and widespread form of connected speech in English and every native speaker does it. If they don't, then they sound like a robot.

This. Imagine if someone told you, “We are going to go to the zoo,” sounding every vowel. They’d sound like Alexa!

BramStoker · 12/03/2021 21:59

In Yorkshire we say t' for to and the

You can't stop us Grin

Moelwynbach · 12/03/2021 22:02

Tuh is totally normal where I am, including my own.

Glitterblue · 12/03/2021 22:04

I first noticed the "ing" thing with one of the reporters back in the first lockdown when they were doing the daily briefings - Beth someone, I can't remember her surname now. I've since noticed on DD's head teacher's videos through this lockdown that he misses the "g" off words ending in "ing" but he doesn't have an accent where you'd expect it.

Corncorncorn · 12/03/2021 22:05

Yes! My dh has switched from to to tuh.
I'm quite murderous about it tbh but he denies ever saying to not tuh.
I may have to LTB.

PuppyMonkey · 12/03/2021 22:06

I haven’t got a clue what OP is on about. I have had a drink though.

PuppyMonkey · 12/03/2021 22:08

Could someone provide an example sentence?

Cattenberg · 13/03/2021 12:27

Imagine if someone told you, “We are going to go to the zoo,” sounding every vowel. They’d sound like Alexa!

I’d pronounce it more like, “we ur going tuh go too the zoo”. Most variants of English are stress-timed, aren’t they? Not syllable-timed like French or Spanish.

DaysAreGettingLongerNow · 13/03/2021 12:55

@Cattenberg

Imagine if someone told you, “We are going to go to the zoo,” sounding every vowel. They’d sound like Alexa!

I’d pronounce it more like, “we ur going tuh go too the zoo”. Most variants of English are stress-timed, aren’t they? Not syllable-timed like French or Spanish.

In my accent it would be more like, “We’regonnagodathe zoooo.” Grin
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