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Knighthood for Alex Beresford

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Thedogscollar · 09/03/2021 19:40

Aibu in suggesting, in a lighthearted manner, that Alex Beresford should be considered for a knighthood for services to journalism and humanity in general?

Of all the people it was Alex the weatherman that was the slayer of PM.

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Justcallmebebes · 11/03/2021 13:06

No I support freedom of speech and agree with Piers Morgan, much as it pains me to say that and he was right in saying that the Queen, after 70 odd years of faultless service, does not deserve this in the twilight years of her reign when her husband is seriously ill in hospital and I'm republican leaning but what those two self entitled, spoilt brats did to her was outrageous.

MmeLaraque · 11/03/2021 14:14

@Justcallmebebes

No I support freedom of speech and agree with Piers Morgan, much as it pains me to say that and he was right in saying that the Queen, after 70 odd years of faultless service, does not deserve this in the twilight years of her reign when her husband is seriously ill in hospital and I'm republican leaning but what those two self entitled, spoilt brats did to her was outrageous.
PM is an arse. He's a bully and an arse. The rest of that post makes a very interesting read. You don't think it's reasonable for a grandkid and his wife to speak out after many, many months of sustained bullying and abuse, in case it upsets Granny and Grandpa?

That sounds like the sort of thing abusive families tell victims of abuse. Silencing victims, in any which way possible, is what abusers and their supporters/enablers do. They also use the same sort of manipulative language you did in that post.

Mental health campaigners have worked really hard, and continue to work really hard to make sure that when people are struggling, they know they should speak out and ask for help. To have someone in PM's position declare, "I don't believe you. " is dangerous and irresponsible. He is shutting them down, and shutting down all of those poor souls elsewhere who are in dire straits, and struggling with the decision to ask for help. They seem him, and watch everyone agreeing with him, and think no one will listen to/believe them, either.

Mental Health campaigners make a point of telling people that if their child or grandchild/anyone else makes the cry for help that Harry and Meghan did, one listens. One may not agree with their perception of events, but one listens. One tries to help. HM The Queen/granny has done that. She's told them, in her own way, that she's listening.

It's interesting that you claim to support Freedom of speech. It's the 19th article in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Article 1 is this: "All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood." There's not much of that brotherhood going on with PM. "I don't believe her." "Princess Pinocchio". You support PM and his appalling behaviour? Seriously? "I don't believe you" = "shut up." He's a disgrace, and his behaviour is dangerous and damaging.

It really doesn't work to claim that one supports Freedom of Speech, whilst simultaneously ignoring the responsibilities that accompany it. For you, and any others who haven't actually read the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a link. You would apparently support PM in breaking that first one. Just remember that with freedoms and rights come responsibilities.
www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

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Thedogscollar · 11/03/2021 22:47

For goodness sake do some of you know the meaning of lighthearted or are you being deliberately obtuse? Hmm

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percheron67 · 11/03/2021 23:00

Certainly not. I didn't see the programme but gather that Piers Morgan was trying to defend the Queen from nasty innuendo and rumour.

rippledegg · 11/03/2021 23:45

No, knighthood should be taken seriously

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Thedogscollar · 11/03/2021 23:49

@percheron67
How would you know that it was "nasty innuendo and rumour"
According to Prince Harry it was a very awkward conversation.
Enough said.

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rippledegg · 11/03/2021 23:51

More broadly, I also don't think that someone who supports those who bash the UK and the Royal family should be knighted.

And if they already have an honour, it should be taken away

NotFrozen · 11/03/2021 23:54

In the spirit of a lighthearted post- yes!!!! He was spot on! And super adorable too!

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Thedogscollar · 11/03/2021 23:55

Who was bashing the UK and RF?? Must have missed that bit.
But hey whatever suits your agenda Grin

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Emeraldshamrock · 11/03/2021 23:55

There is a petition running for PM to the job back. 80,000 viewers switched off.
Alex Beresford was brilliant.

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Thedogscollar · 11/03/2021 23:58

@Notfrozen
Thank God you got the lighthearted bit. Ok scrap the knighthood for obvious reasons Grin
Let's just give Alex an award for ridding us of the very shouty bully known as Piers Morgan.

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Thedogscollar · 12/03/2021 00:01

@Emeraldshamrock
I'm not surprised they have lost viewers. I think people watched for the shock factor more than anything else.
He won't be back but sadly will pop up elsewhereSad

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StillCoughingandLaughing · 12/03/2021 00:04

Why of all people?? Because he was a weatherman? That shouldn't mean he cant have his own views and it willing to stand up for them.

Oh for heaven’s sake - no one is saying Beresford can’t have his own view because he’s a weatherman. Surely you can see that the lead anchor being confronted by a weather forecaster and being out of a job 12 hours later is ever so slightly unusual?

Nanny0gg · 12/03/2021 00:30

[quote Thedogscollar]@Sparklingbrook Maybe PM stalks Mumsnet and is voting Grin

I'm not fussed either way. I'm just relieved the Piers show is over.[/quote]
Were you made to watch it?

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Thedogscollar · 12/03/2021 00:34

@NannyOgg
No, but I'm allowed to have an opinion Smile

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SandyY2K · 12/03/2021 00:36

What Alex said about PM having a grudge against Megan was completely true due to her not wanting to befriend him.

Absolutely.

If he'd said sorry, they'd have kept him.

His ego is way too big to apologise.

You don't think it's reasonable for a grandkid and his wife to speak out after many, many months of sustained bullying and abuse, in case it upsets Granny and Grandpa?

That sounds like the sort of thing abusive families tell victims of abuse.
Silencing victims, in any which way possible, is what abusers and their supporters/enablers do. They also use the same sort of manipulative language you did in that post.

Totally agree with this. They say don’t say anything as it won't look good and victims are silenced.

I think many people just think MM should have endured everything and kept quiet. She spoke about her lived experience....and PM called her a liar, simply because she ghosted him.

If people listened carefully, MM said she emailed someone within the firm about needing help ..she has the proof and she said she has the note from Kate that accompanied the flowers to apologise.

MM is smart and she made it known in that interview in a very quiet way, she could back up what she was saying on those 2 issues... her reaching out for help with her MH and the Kate issue.

Because the Queen is old and her DH is in hospital, doesn't mean H & M should just STFU and not tell their truth about their lived experience.

MM was right to speak out about how the firm sat back and let everyone believe she made Kate cry, portraying her as a bully? They could have stopped it going to print, but they didn't.

I'm sure she didn't want the truth to be told... the don't complain, don't explain doesn't apply to them anymore.

I'm glad they spoke out and aren't being silenced anymore as they're no longer trapped.

Unhomme · 12/03/2021 06:26

No, don't be silly. I want my knights to do a bit more than have a row in the telly.

Emeraldshamrock · 12/03/2021 08:06

I bet Alex had that discussion many times in his head on a sleepless night.
He was absolutely spot on with his words, you can't argue against fact. 👏

Fairyliz · 12/03/2021 08:16

Anyone else think it was all set up?
I think PM already has another job offer and is fed up with the early mornings.
This way he goes with a blaze of publicity and GMB are seen to be doing the right thing regarding their MH campaign.
It’s all about the ratings!

Sparklingbrook · 12/03/2021 08:25

@Fairyliz

Anyone else think it was all set up? I think PM already has another job offer and is fed up with the early mornings. This way he goes with a blaze of publicity and GMB are seen to be doing the right thing regarding their MH campaign. It’s all about the ratings!
I have said this from the very moment PM stood up and walked off after very little had happened. It all looked so staged to me. That opinion doesn't please some people though.
PersimmonTree · 12/03/2021 08:30

YANBU if you think he needs a reward.

But who on earth would want a worthless honour from that motley crew of dinosaurs?

saracorona · 12/03/2021 08:35

Sorry no Beresford doesn't deserve sainthood, knighthood or the anchor job. He was in the wrong to say what he said, making out that it was personal what PM said about MM. PM has criticised her for many years as have others. But he was the only one to carry on to criticise her when others rushed to sympathise even though there was more holes in the interview than a swiss cheese.

Actually yes give Beresford the Anchor job, ITV deserves him, we'll see he how beats PM's ratings.

Needsleep32 · 12/03/2021 08:36

@Fairyliz I’m convinced it was staged. He’s prob already got a job lined up with GB News.

catless · 12/03/2021 08:46

Yep. Staged for sure. Leaving in a blaze of controversy to maintain his image.

potter5 · 12/03/2021 08:50

No!
Glad PM has gone though.😀

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