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Closing Job Application Process Early

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CockatooZoo · 09/03/2021 10:48

Just wanting some thoughts on this. I was applying for a job under the guaranteed interview scheme, I would have been offered an interview as I met all the criteria and had several years experience with all points of the criteria, qualified in the subject area and worked at a more senior level to this role in another organisation (similar).

I read through the application thoroughly and had worked on my draft application for quite a while, adjusted my CV and ensured everything was easy to link together to demonstrate the competencies. It also included a personal statement which I wrote from scratch.

There was no mention of rolling applications or that applications would close early for any circumstance on the website.

I went to submit the application on Friday (having had a reminder email at midnight) and they had closed it early. I have been told it's because they chose the candidate.

Now, I have a big issue with this because I feel it puts women and people with disabilities at a huge disadvantage. I feel really off that they have closed it on the final day of school closures, before a weekend (when partner's could have been in a better position to provide childcare) and with zero information about the possibly this would happen.

I have emailed HR but had no response yet.

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CockatooZoo · 09/03/2021 16:53

@goodbyelenin please show me the evidence that says it is men who have done the majority of the caring during the pandemic? Because I certainly haven't seen any articles that state that.

It is women who are in the vast majority of juggling caring, work, house during the pandemic. Im so sorry you were not aware of that -after the million articles on it recently-

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UserX · 09/03/2021 16:55

Then you may well be missing out on the best applicant

This belief that there is one best person for the job is really damaging. Everyone is replaceable.

This wasn’t the job for you OP, accept it and move on. Now your cv is polished up and your cover letter written it’ll be much easier to apply for the next one.

You need resilience in a job search, it is the one skill that will get you through because it is tough out there. I’ve been hunting for 18 months & loads of applications, interviews & rejections. Just chalk it up to experience and be quicker off the mark next time.

pippasweddingdress · 09/03/2021 17:08

[quote CockatooZoo]@goodbyelenin please show me the evidence that says it is men who have done the majority of the caring during the pandemic? Because I certainly haven't seen any articles that state that.

It is women who are in the vast majority of juggling caring, work, house during the pandemic. Im so sorry you were not aware of that -after the million articles on it recently-[/quote]
oh stop playing the victim.

Just because the majority was women doesn't mean that men didn't do any for a start, and more importantly, that mothers who did the childcare could not do their job!

If some women have decided to take on the majority of childcare and house, it's on them.

You cannot seriously use the childcare card to justify finding it hard to find the time to apply for a job. You are making yourself less and less employable.

As an employer, I would specifically avoid anyone moaning about childcare frankly! Most of the teams have children and childcare issues, but by experience there's always one trouble maker who will play the "childcare" card to try to get away from things, or claim specific holidays. Leaving the other parents pick up the slack - but funnily enough, they manage...

I am fed up of people like you trying to bring the rest of us down. Being a woman and a mother does not have any impact on our ability to do a job as well as a man can, does not have any impact of our ability to earn similar pay.

You would probably have the same attitude if you were male and would find more excuses.

Aprilx · 09/03/2021 17:17

@HeyDemonsItsYaGirl

What's it got to do with women and people with disabilities?

Women and people with disabilities are less likely to be able to fire off a quick application, so closing early puts them at a disadvantage.

I am both perplexed and offended at this comment. I genuinely cannot understand why my being a women renders me as not as able as a man to fire off a quick application. Confused. You don’t do women any favours with that kind of comment.

I am inclined to think similarly regarding being disabled but as I am not I won’t focus on that, but I still think you do disabled people a disservice with that attitude.

Mumtothelittlefella · 09/03/2021 17:32

Also, I would suggest that given you’ve managed to find the time to create this post, that you might have been able to find equal time to complete the form?

I get that it’s frustrating that it’s been closed early and it’s definitely worth you calling to find out why but don’t put yourself at a disadvantage by complaining about it as you’ll cut off any chance to be considered in the future.

Get your CV up to date now and aim to get your application form in well before the closing date. I suspect it’s closed early as they’ve been inundated with applications and enough of them have met criteria. It’s hash but it’s a competitive market it out there. Please don’t blame any of this on being a woman and child care.

I really wish you luck on finding a new post.

user643289 · 09/03/2021 17:44

This thread really demonstrates many people have no idea about disability though (which I should have realised based on previous MN threads)

I'm disabled myself.

Still wondering which disability means you can only write/ type during daylight hours?

MargaretThursday · 09/03/2021 17:50

If you'd really wanted to you'd have been able to type as fast as a fully abled bodied person despite only having one hand"...

My dd would find that insulting, the implication that she coulnd't type fast. She's got one hand and is generally one of the quickest at typing in any group she's been in.
If you're not wanting people to make assumptions about your disability, don't make assumptions about others.

user643289 · 09/03/2021 17:50

You've written 41 posts, some quite lengthy, since this morning.
Why didn't you use the same amount of time last week and submit the application?

haveapieceoftoast · 09/03/2021 17:52

@user643289

This thread really demonstrates many people have no idea about disability though (which I should have realised based on previous MN threads)

I'm disabled myself.

Still wondering which disability means you can only write/ type during daylight hours?

Also disabled and also wondering this
SwedishK · 09/03/2021 17:54

How long was the application period open for? As an employer I would have thought that applicants who are really keen would have sent their applications asap.

I can’t see how it is discriminatory against women or people with disabilities. It’s not like it’s only women and people with disabilities who are homeschooling. Also, people with full time jobs and children still have time to apply for jobs.

pippasweddingdress · 09/03/2021 18:01

This thread really demonstrates many people have no idea about disability though (which I should have realised based on previous MN threads)

having a vagina is not a disability.

Rosieposy89 · 09/03/2021 18:14

@MargaretThursday completely agree. I only have the use of one hand and can type much faster than my non-disabled peers. It wouldn't stop me doing a job application on time and is an advantage in my workplace

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CockatooZoo · 09/03/2021 18:22

having a vagina is not a disability.

I never said it was, did I?

@MargaretThursday - huge apologies for that, that was not my intention.

Leaving this thread now, the reason I could type it was because schools are back (obvs), have had some pretty nasty comments and doubt I will get anything useful from it.

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WhoStoleMyCheese · 09/03/2021 18:24

Even if they kept application ‘open’ there’s no guarantee they’d have gone through them - if they’ve already received too many.
Always apply ASAP is the golden rule of job hunting - I’m surprised you don’t know this already...

Jangle33 · 09/03/2021 18:25

YABU, organisations are inundated with applicants at the best of times, let alone during a pandemic. The amount of time spent reviewing applications is insane, I think they clearly felt they had sufficient applicants to chose from. I’m amazed they even sent out a reminder. I’m afraid job hunting needs to take priority over everything if you actually want to get a job.

Okbussitout · 09/03/2021 19:32

@goodbyelenin

What is being said is that women who are doing the bulk of the caring work, with children at home at the moment, need more time.

well, duh, but so are men who are doing the bulk of the caring work Hmm

How do think the husbands of female nurses, doctors, pharmacists, policewomen, supermarket cashiers and all the jobs where WOMEN couldn't work from home, how do you think the husbands cope?

Why are we not earring men complaining to HR that it's too hard to apply when the schools are closed?

If YOU decided to go into a situation where you are home, and your husband is working out of the house, don't turn it into a gender issue. Some of us would like to kept being seriously.

This argument of expetionalism is bullshit. The majority of childcare in this pandemic has fallen to women. Stop your whatabouttety it's a shit argument.

The posts on here are so right wing I'm embarrassed for you all.

user643289 · 09/03/2021 20:10

@CockatooZoo

having a vagina is not a disability.

I never said it was, did I?

@MargaretThursday - huge apologies for that, that was not my intention.

Leaving this thread now, the reason I could type it was because schools are back (obvs), have had some pretty nasty comments and doubt I will get anything useful from it.

Ah, shame, just as you were about to share this nighttime-only disability(!)
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CockatooZoo · 09/03/2021 20:27

@user643289

Where did I say it was a night-time only disability? Neither did I say I was going to share it...

@Okbussitout exactly. Just like the % of women furloughed, made redundant, going through miscarriages alone...

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user643289 · 09/03/2021 20:30

[quote CockatooZoo]@user643289

Where did I say it was a night-time only disability? Neither did I say I was going to share it...

@Okbussitout exactly. Just like the % of women furloughed, made redundant, going through miscarriages alone...[/quote]
You said you cannot write or type in the night due to a disability...

user643289 · 09/03/2021 20:31

going through miscarriages alone...

Where are you getting these stats from?

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CockatooZoo · 09/03/2021 20:33

@user643289 where?

I think you will find i said "I cannot work through the night due to a disability" ....

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CockatooZoo · 09/03/2021 20:33

@user643289 it's being widely spoken about, on lots of platforms...

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orpah · 09/03/2021 20:35

[quote CockatooZoo]@user643289 where?

I think you will find i said "I cannot work through the night due to a disability" ....[/quote]
You can’t do a couple of hours after the kids’ bedtime?

user643289 · 09/03/2021 20:36

[quote CockatooZoo]@user643289 where?

I think you will find i said "I cannot work through the night due to a disability" ....[/quote]
Yes. In response to me asking why you couldn't complete your application during the night.

What is preventing you from writing/ typing during the night (when your dc are asleep)?

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CockatooZoo · 09/03/2021 20:38

@orpah nope, as explained previously. I couldn't.

@user643289 as i said, a disability. I don't need to explain myself further.

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