To think that babies dont have to have pudding every day?

[Aimee1987]

I got into a disagreement with someone on a weaning Facebook group so want to pool for opinions.
The woman had given her 7 month old chocolate cake after dinner on the advice of her health visitor to increase calories before bed. She also posted a picture of the baby who was not underweight.
I asked why the HV had given that advice as it does not sound healthy to me and got told that babies should have pudding.

So my question is why do we give puddings after meals? Surely it just teaches one of 2 things either eat your dinner to get your pudding (potentially overeating) or dont eat savory and you can just have sweet. Is this not just asking for trouble when they are toddlers and will just start demanding pudding.
By the way I do give my DS( 1) and DSS (9) age appropiate treats but I dislike the association with dinner. So as not to drop feed when I met DSS at 2 every meal was a battle to eat 2 more bites and you can have pudding which really annoyed me so we ended up getting rid of pudding when he was 3/4 and replacing with an afternoon treat that has nothing to do with his dinner.

So
YABU - kids should have pudding after dinner
YANBU - pudding is not necessary after dinner

The woman had given her 7 month old chocolate cake after dinner on the advice of her health visitor to increase calories before bed. She also posted a picture of the baby who was not underweight.

Medical advice to increase calories yet you are in disagreement because you saw a picture

Mind your own OP, mind your own.

There are other ways to increase calorie intake, I will give you that, but you can't judge a child's nutritional needs on a picture

I bet the hv didn't actually say cake! My dc had a weetabix and milk before bed once weaning was half decent!

My kids would have fruit or a yoghurt if they were still hungry after dinner but I'd not offer it otherwise. An ice cream as a treat if eating out. There is no right or wrong when jt comes to pudding. If a healthy pudding like fruit, why not every day? Not cake/ice cream constantly though

If this is true then the mum is an idiot, but what are your motives for posting @Aimee1987

Is it another attempt to froth about the uneducated, fat thickos who don't know how to feed their children?

I’d be surprised if you are better qualified after seeing a picture to judge.

Also, after having an IUGR babies who were then diagnosed as failure to thrive, it can be very difficult to get your head round some of the suggestions provided by dieticians. So I wouldn’t rule out the chocolate cake being a legitimate pudding suggestion without any further information.

Yanbu.

I cut out all puddings and just feed my DC celery when they ask for a treat. Nobody needs cake, especially not cute little babies who you love with all your heart and soul and who experience and communicate feelings of innocent unbridled joy and excitement when they get hold of a bit of chocolate.

Fuck em. And fuck those thick fat NHS wrecking obese seven month olds.

My question is do people routinely give babies pudding after every meal? If you do how do you stol the association with finishing a plate to get your pudding?

I gave a background of the disagreement to highlight why I was asking the question. I have given my 1 year old cake and other treats but they dont get them after every meal.

My question is do people routinely give babies pudding after every meal?

Yes. Yes, they do. And vodka. And then a fag for after.

@ohwaitthatwasme

The woman had given her 7 month old chocolate cake after dinner on the advice of her health visitor to increase calories before bed. She also posted a picture of the baby who was not underweight.

Medical advice to increase calories yet you are in disagreement because you saw a picture

Mind your own OP, mind your own.

There are other ways to increase calorie intake, I will give you that, but you can't judge a child's nutritional needs on a picture

Putting my comment about the picture aside do you think a healthcare professional should give that type of advice with no follow up? I say that as a mother of a child who has a pediatric dietician due to a number of problems around weaning. If there is growth issues then the child gets referred to peads.

9 times out of 10 my 14 mo DD will have a pudding after a meal.
Usually a small yoghurt (sometimes frozen, to help soothe teething gums), small rice pudding, some fruit, a couple of chocolate buttons. She's only had cake once (on her birthday) and some brownie her dad gave her when he was eating it.

She rarely has snacks though, and if she does it's a small handful of dry cereal rather than anything super sweet.

I don't see an issue

@Aimee1987

My question is do people routinely give babies pudding after every meal? If you do how do you stol the association with finishing a plate to get your pudding?

I gave a background of the disagreement to highlight why I was asking the question. I have given my 1 year old cake and other treats but they dont get them after every meal.

You seem fixated on a pudding for a baby being a treat. It can just be an extra course eg plain yoghurt, banana, blueberries, carrots etc.

I don’t give mine anything because I don’t really eat sweets after dinner. I don’t care what other people do

Pudding after every meal is ridiculous. Especially for a 7 month old.

I have 2 year old. Daily puddings are not necessary. He eats plain yoghurt and fruit. Occasionally we'll bake gingerbread men and he'll have a small one.

I asked why the HV had given that advice as it does not sound healthy to me

^I wanted to catch this woman out in her lie and cause an unnecessary pile-on drama whilst haughtily signalling my dominance and knowledge and judging the mum.
^
And I didn't even need google translate.

If you do how do you stol the association with finishing a plate to get your pudding?

Why would you want to? It’s how generations of normal weight kids were brought up. It’s been an excellent way of getting vegetables down kids for decades.

I bloody hate MN and its obsession with healthy eating and total outrage if a kid has a bit of cake.

@Aimee1987

My question is do people routinely give babies pudding after every meal? If you do how do you stol the association with finishing a plate to get your pudding?

I gave a background of the disagreement to highlight why I was asking the question. I have given my 1 year old cake and other treats but they dont get them after every meal.

My kids (3/4yo) do have some sweet stuff after dinner. In this house people have tea and biscuits, it was a losing battle..... but sometimes is a little bit of blueberries or a date or raisins

OP there needs to be a balance between "child controls their eating" and "biscuit reward if...!!!" and that depends on the situation. Depends on how much the child normally eats, what they ate that day, why are they not finishing their meal. If they are taking 3 centuries to even eat one spoonful then the biscuit reward comes after 2/3 spoonfuls of dinner. If they are just playing then they need to sit down and eat!!! If they're complaining about a certain item in their dinner they have to taste only a little bit to get the reward

Usually my kids lap up EVERYTHING the next day for lunch if I quickly sautee it and add a little bit of Philadelphia cheese you name it, they gobble it up!!!

The post got me thinking, I'm not British and growing up I never had any sort of pudding during the week but did at weekends or during holidays.when mum baked. But my DP is British and associates them with every meal, I guess that part of that comes from school lunches so was interested if that was the case in most homes and if it started as babies.

If you give pudding how do you stop the association with finishing a plate to get your pudding or do you just give it regardless?
This is on my mind because of the issues around DSS and pudding so was wondering if I'm overthinking it.

Cake does seem a really odd thing to give to such a young baby when there are plenty of better calories dense foods. But I'm not sure it makes for bad habits. My cousins were never allowed sugar in cereal. So now they just don't have sugar in cereal - it didn't stop them putting it in other stuff. I didn't have desserts other than fruit or yogurt growing up but I sure love them now!

You can give your baby pudding without giving the message that they need to finish their plate of dinner by just giving them pudding whether they finish their dinner or not.

You'd love me, I have been weaning my baby on pink wafer biscuits.

If you give pudding how do you stop the association with finishing a plate to get your pudding

Once again, why would you want to? And yes, school dinners include a pudding every day.

Bananas and custard
Stewed Apple and custard
Rice pudding
Yoghurt
Sponge and custard

Custard featured heavily 😂

Usual 'MNer knows better than heathcare professionals' crap.

Mind your own bloody business!

I cant think of anything wrong with giving yogurt or fruit regularly as part of a well balanced diet and a wee bite of cake or other pudding type foods now and again if the rest of the family is having some.

@Aimee1987

The post got me thinking, I'm not British and growing up I never had any sort of pudding during the week but did at weekends or during holidays.when mum baked. But my DP is British and associates them with every meal, I guess that part of that comes from school lunches so was interested if that was the case in most homes and if it started as babies.

If you give pudding how do you stop the association with finishing a plate to get your pudding or do you just give it regardless?
This is on my mind because of the issues around DSS and pudding so was wondering if I'm overthinking it.

You should never have to finish what’s on your plate or force anyone else to. Pudding or a sweet course shouldn’t be seen as a treat; it’s just more food that tastes differently.