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Overweight and knee is suffering

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eatsleepread · 24/02/2021 19:02

Hi. I've changed my username for this, as I am actually ashamed of myself.
I am a single mum of 4 who works full-time, in a demanding role with vulnerable children. I am in my mid-forties.
I am very overweight, and also unfit. Food is a bit of a crux for me in life. I eat too much, and often the wrong things. I've always had a troublesome relationship to food, dating back to childhood. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. Food is my only vice (says she, like it's nothing Hmm).

I have recently returned to work full-time, and the effects of my weight/diet are much more obvious than they were in lockdown at home. My energy levels are low. Every day I come home from work, I need a nap. I'm exhausted. I should add that my children are all older, so the nap doesn't impact them.
What is concerning me most, is that my left knee is starting to twinge. It's letting me know that it's not happy on pretty much a constant basis. It's not in agony, but does gently ache, particularly when I bend it back (towards my bottom). It feels clicky at times too. I generally feel very stiff in my bottom half, particularly when I stand up after sitting. I walk fine, but am aware that there's a slight unnatural gait because of my knee (I tend not to want to bend it too much). I am not great at keeping my fluid intake up, which I'm guessing doesn't help.
I am so scared. I am worried that my knee will give way completely. I am so very, very embarrassed about this.
Obviously losing weight is a priority. I'm not an idiot and I know that this is almost certainly all my own fault. The years of self-neglect are catching up on me. I take responsibility for that.
However I am a good person, both as a mother and in the valuable job that I do. I deserve a chance to put things right.
Food is a source of pleasure and distraction in my life. Too much so. I am scared of limiting my intake, and hence the enjoyment, but am more scared of damaging my knee further.

Losing weight will take a while. In the meantime, is there anything I can do to help with my knee/general stiffness/lack of energy? Maybe a vitamin supplement I can take? Just for peace of mind, and to make me feel better while the big changes are taking place.

To those who've never had weight problems and have a healthy relationship with food, believe me I know that I must sound rather pathetic. But I would love in particular to hear from those who have been/are going through similar, as well as the medically competent who can comment on my knee!

As always, thanks in advance for any support and advice you may have to offer.

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Douchebaggette · 24/02/2021 19:04

Glucosamine and chondroitin for joint health.

Yoga to increase muscle strength, thus put less starin on the joint.

Good luck x

eatsleepread · 24/02/2021 19:06

Oh, and it goes without saying that I'm aware of the fact that my weight will be putting too much pressure on my joints, and system in general. Just in case it sounds like I didn't make the link in my post Smile

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eatsleepread · 24/02/2021 19:10

Thanks DB (love the name!).
👍

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jerometheturnipking · 24/02/2021 19:12

I'd have a look into strength building exercises to strengthen your leg muscles to help support your knee. You don't want to launch into anything too vigorous when you've already got developing knee pain, so I wouldn't be looking into anything like higher intensity exercises or anything too "jumpy" until you feel more comfortable in your leg.

It's good that you've identified that weight loss would be slow - from my own experience one of the biggest hurdles to weight loss is hoping for fast results and then being disheartened when it doesn't turn out that way.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 24/02/2021 19:13

Definitely what Douchebaggette says about glucosamine and chondrotin for your joints - also fish oils? What supplements (if any) do you regularly take?

If your knee is particularly painful at the moment, what about a knee support/brace to help alleviate the pressure on it when you walk? Can be easily hidden under trousers/long skirts.

I've struggled with my weight too, have it more or less under fair control now - I fast, 16:8 and don't go nuts during the 8 hour period I can eat. Sometimes I shorten it to 20:4 but am not obliged to do that. The beauty of this way of eating is that I don't particularly have to watch every calorie. Look up autophagy for information on cell renewal, it's incredible.

Do you drink enough water? That is one thing I struggle with in the winter but try to drink 2l every day. Water helps everything - and also fills you up a bit too.

When gyms/pools open up again I'd highly recommend swimming. I miss it so much and it has zero stress impact.

Everybody starts somewhere and you have no need to feel apologetic for just being, eatsleepread.

Douchebaggette · 24/02/2021 19:13

@eatsleepread

Thanks DB (love the name!). 👍
Grin
Douchebaggette · 24/02/2021 19:15

you have no need to feel apologetic for just being

This! I am fu**ing sick of people having to feel bad about their very existence. Especially women.

eatsleepread · 24/02/2021 19:17

Aaah, thank you so much. I regularly take a good quality Vit D3 (since January, when I had Covid) and 'healthy hair' vitamins, which contain collagen & MSM, minerals, amino acids, Vitamins a, b's, c and d.

Do you think my current knee issue is reversible? I will just die if I've fucked it for life Blush

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eatsleepread · 24/02/2021 19:19

Not too apologetic for being, as I know I'm pretty awesome ... even for a fattie! Grin I was however a bit nervous about posting on here.

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PandoraP · 24/02/2021 19:19

Swimming. I am not overweight but have problems with my knees and I think swimming helps.

TheStirrer · 24/02/2021 19:20

Aah you sound like me a year ago but not quite as bad!

In Jan 20 I was nearly 20 stone and had just got gout and was then diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and that was my wake up call my body couldn’t cope anymore. It sounds like your body has got to that point now so you need to listen to it.

I think for those of us with issues around food you need to think of any change as a lifestyle change and devise something that is going to work long term for you and make small realistic changes that you can manage to keep. It is also important to recognise you are going to fall off the wagon every now and then but not sabotage the changes you have made. For me I started off with the “I will not eat between meals” so I ate good size meals and had a pudding if I wanted and drank gallons a of tea in between initially. I started going for a walk every day with uplifting music after a few months and reduced carbs. I am now 6.5 stones lighter and do much more energetic!

Baby steps and be kind to yourself - if you have been overweight all your life it is a big shift in mindset but you can do it Flowers

AOwlAOwlAOwl · 24/02/2021 19:21

Starting a lifestyle change does feel scary and it's daunting to know where to start - it feels like small changes won't help but they absolutely do, lots of small changes add up to big changes.

Do not apologise for being fat OP, it's not a personality defect, I bet you're a hard worker and a great mum. Please don't get down on yourself about this, it is completely fixable.

In the meantime like a PP suggested, how about a knee brace to help temporarily? Might stop you worrying about it until you have lost a bit of weight. And good luck, you can absolutely do this.

Nohomemadecandles · 24/02/2021 19:21

I hear you. I've had that too and losing weight did help. It was the wake up call I needed to look after myself and move my fat bottom more!

Don't reward yourself with food. You're not a dog! Put 50p in a jar instead and treat yourself once a month to something nice.

It's not easy. Especially when your relationship with food is like Stockholm syndrome! I know.

Nohomemadecandles · 24/02/2021 19:22

@TheStirrer that's fantastic! Well done!

Toiletrollbuyer · 24/02/2021 19:26

@eatsleepread I could have written this post a couple of months go. My knees are I. Shreds and I’ve had a few surgeries.
I was overweight which put a massive amount of pressure on my knees. I used to run 8k plus a day but recently struggle to do 1k
I have just decided that the best way to look after my knees is to lose weight. I’ve fasted on and off and am cycling 50 miles a week and my knees feel better. I need to swim but can’t do that yet. It’s so hard because I need to exercise but my knees say no.
When the gyms open, try and join and do leg strengthening exercises as this will take pressure from the joints.
Good luck. Knee problems suck.

Furloughwonder · 24/02/2021 19:27

You are so articulate! You explain things perfectly. I think it’s all go go go for the weight loss - choosing other ways to treat yourself - bubble bath, diet soda, bedtime routine (I brush my teeth early to try & stop snacking!) Good luck x

eatsleepread · 24/02/2021 19:29

Jesus, what a lovely lot you are.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 24/02/2021 19:30

@eatsleepread

Aaah, thank you so much. I regularly take a good quality Vit D3 (since January, when I had Covid) and 'healthy hair' vitamins, which contain collagen & MSM, minerals, amino acids, Vitamins a, b's, c and d.

Do you think my current knee issue is reversible? I will just die if I've fucked it for life Blush

I think that nobody here can say, eatsleepread, but I know that reducing the pressure on it - losing weight as needed - will definitely help and not make you feel so awful.

Did you bump it or turn awkwardly or something? Can you remember when it started feeling painful? Does a warm bath or ice help?

I'll put my neck on the line and say that it's never too late to improve your joints and anything you do that's good for them will pay you dividends. Does that count as sitting on the fence? Grin

I want to make you feel better but I'm not medically qualified in any way... make some changes and see if any of them make your knee pain lessen.

eatsleepread · 24/02/2021 19:31

Quick question about the knee brace: is this something I can buy at my local pharmacy, or somewhere like that? Is it a one size fits all, or do they require fitting? I'd rather not go to the GP if I can help it.
Thanks Star

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mummy2b2011 · 24/02/2021 19:34

I wonder whether there is diet-related inflammation causing the pain in your knee? You could try cutting out sugar and seeing the effect? Or gluten?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 24/02/2021 19:37

You can buy a knee support from the chemist. I did this with my elbow when I whacked the wall with it. I was told to wear it for a bit but not all the time - I expect your pharmacy can advise you and they may also have some tips for you for your knee. I agree with not going to you GP at the moment, sick people/covid - and perhaps, judgement. You can even get these online, just measure your knee to get the right size. I even used a pair of tights for my elbow - tied in a massive unsightly 'bow' like a demented Easter bunny... Blush

You can do this, bit by bit, as PP says, every small change adds up.

GeorgeMichaelsEspadrille · 24/02/2021 19:41

When I had knee / weight problems (along with half the middle aged women in my lovely office) I read that for every 10lbs you lose, it takes about 40lbs of pressure off each knee per step (I think I'm remembering this correctly).

Weirdly, I found it easier to lose weight when I had this specific motivation.

If you have food addiction issues, I found Dr Rob Cywes on YouTube was good.

Best of luck!

GrallaceandWomit · 24/02/2021 19:41

You sound very self aware OP, I don’t have much advice on the knee front but I will add that for losing weight diet is more important than exercise. Don’t restrict yourself too much, you can still enjoy your food! I really recommend the Pinch of Nom books for low calorie meal ideas, especially the latest book! Some really nice food in there but you need a pretty well stocked herb/spice rack! Very tasty food that even my toddler DS enjoys.

LeonaV · 24/02/2021 19:46

@Douchebaggette

you have no need to feel apologetic for just being

This! I am fu**ing sick of people having to feel bad about their very existence. Especially women.

Firstly - this. I’m also sick of women having to apologise for their weight. You’re valuable and valued by your kids, family, friends and work colleagues for so much more than the number on a scale.

Are you sure you haven’t damaged your knee, and might need the doc?

I am the same, carrying a bit more weight than I’d like and have worked out that it’s due to having self soothed with food during a very abusive and neglected childhood. I’m now grateful to the little kid that was me for just surviving my childhood, using sugar to cope. I’m in a recovery programme called SMART, it’s free if you want to look into it.

In terms of helping your knee, if you’re ok to just start walking a little, this will help you in lots of ways in terms of weight, energy, meditation. Hope you do really well my love.

Geordieoldgirl · 24/02/2021 19:47

Could you see a physio? I did (for the same complaint) and got some knee exercises to do which certainly helped. Also,if you are a lady of a certain age, I recommend Pahla B’s knee-friendly exercise sessions (free on YouTube).

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