Page 5 | "Being offensive is an offence"

hallouminatus · 2021-02-22T11:19:53+00:00

AIBU to find this image offensive?

ChonkyChook · 22/02/2021 20:06

I read that as aromatic. Knicker sniffers of the world unite!

Dalyesque · 22/02/2021 20:17

As others have said it would be good if the powers that be concentrated on the rapists and abusers that get away with it, the numerous gangs that murder . However it is the low hanging fruit that are we women that will be concentrated on when we are arrested and prosecuted for telling men that we don’t accept them as women. Proclaiming their wokeness does not mean we are not watching.

LexMitior · 22/02/2021 20:52

Would someone actually be able to point to a law that covers "hate crime"? Including these officers?

There are a lot of those who appear to think their status or identity, and their thin skin means that adverse comment is a "hate crime".

And yes, its a horrible image.

NiceGerbil · 22/02/2021 23:03

Hate crime cps

www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/hate-crime

You can Google the actual law as well.

I know what it says so the sodding police should!

PoppenhuisStories · 23/02/2021 08:29

Crimes are not hate crimes per se but other more specific offences become hate crimes if there is an element of motivation relating to the victimization of a protected group. I think the lines the police are thinking along with the ‘offended’ poster are s5 public order where you cause someone harassment, alarm or distress through your behaviour. It’s not offence of course but I think it best covers the type of thing posters are talking about.

LakieLady · 23/02/2021 08:39

@PoppenhuisStories

Crimes are not hate crimes per se but other more specific offences become hate crimes if there is an element of motivation relating to the victimization of a protected group. I think the lines the police are thinking along with the ‘offended’ poster are s5 public order where you cause someone harassment, alarm or distress through your behaviour. It’s not offence of course but I think it best covers the type of thing posters are talking about.

Yes, it's an aggravating factor and an offence which is motivated by hatred of a particular group can attract a more severe penalty than it would otherwise because of that.

I don't recall anyone getting a harsher sentence because their crime was motivated by misogyny though.

PoppenhuisStories · 23/02/2021 10:50

I don't recall anyone getting a harsher sentence because their crime was motivated by misogyny though.

Misogyny isn’t a hate crime sadly.

nitsandwormsdodger · 23/02/2021 11:39

Don't be Nasty to gay people

Seems simple enough !?

Don't see the problem

DGRossetti · 23/02/2021 11:46

@nitsandwormsdodger

Don't be Nasty to gay people

Seems simple enough !?

Don't see the problem

What happens if said gay person is a thundercunt or cockwomble of the highest order ?

WhereYouLeftIt · 23/02/2021 12:35

I do find this quite concerning, on several fronts.

That they are trying to portray offensiveness as a crime
That they are therefore lying
That the lies are meant to intimidate people
That they spend money on lying (wages, posters, van hire etc.)
That they are wasting police time (that could be better spent)
That they are not policing "without favour"
That they are bringing the police into disrepute

Because add it all up and you just TRUST the police a little bit less. And I don't want to trust them less, but I do .

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 23/02/2021 12:49

I find being called 'cis' offensive, yet somehow I think that's not the kind of misgendering that they mean.
(And for the po-faced MN watchers, I wouldn't bloody call the police about it)

DGRossetti · 23/02/2021 13:08

As soon as anyone lies to me to advance an agenda, it stops there.

One reason why I won't have a smart meter (for example).

What is the real agenda ?

BiggerBoat1 · 23/02/2021 13:18

What happens if said gay person is a thundercunt or cockwomble of the highest order ?

But then you're basing your behaviour on their personality flaws rather than their sexuality which is a totally different thing.

Nobody says you have to like every gay person. You just have to not abuse them because they are gay. Not that tricky really.

PoppenhuisStories · 23/02/2021 13:42

You can call a gay person a cockwomble you just can’t call them a gay cockwomble. Same with racist religious prefixes. It’s the prefix that’s the problem or specially targeted derogatory term.

Hate crimes aren’t a problem, they’re a good thing. Not that they happen, that we have the laws forbidding them. It’s unfair women aren’t protected though.

WoolieLiberal · 23/02/2021 14:10

Just remember, back in the 70s paedophiles were trying to gain legitimacy and had the backing of groups like that which became “Liberty”.

Those who thought that it wasn’t OK were called “bigots” by people who thought that there could be something in the idea that children are sexual creatures, capable of consenting to sexual relationships with adults and that such relationships weren’t necessarily harmful or exploitative. They even had an acronym “MAP’s” and had advocacy organisations such as PIE which many “radical” and “progressive” people were willing to support.

People who derided then as child molesters were condemned as being closed minded.

Thankfully, history proved that the “bigots” were right on that issue.