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Does this situation count for forming a support bubble?

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BirdHedge · 21/02/2021 22:41

Looking for advice as to what the general consensus is.

Couple, A & B, no children. A has a disability and B works from home full time to be able to be their sole carer. A is on the CEV shielding list and they have both shielded since March. B has shielded totally with A to be able to look after them. They have not been to a supermarket/been to visit people/formed a previous support bubble/eaten out during the summer or had people in their house since March. They were advised to not stop shielding. When rules allowed, they had people to visit in their garden, using back entrance, sitting 3m apart, bringing their own drinks and not using the toilet.

They are coming up on 3 months now with no other human contact as they had no previous support bubble when people where still allowed one bubble, due to others understandably only wanting a bubble with people go inside houses. Unable to exercise with others under the new rules due to A’s disability and B for not wanting the risk of running next to someone. Sitting in an accessible park is ok for A. But visiting in a garden is safe and manageable but currently against the law in both England & Wales.

Welsh law states a single capable adult in a house with full caring responsibilities for another adult can bubble with another household in a support bubble. This would mean they could visit another couple in England (Live near North Welsh border so need to satisfy both laws). Wales allows travel to support bubble if nearby and on the border. 5miles away.

English law states “ you are the only adult in your household who does not need continuous care as a result of a disability”.

A uses an electric wheelchair and needs accompanying out the house. But A has full mental capacity and understanding/communication. Does the English law read that you have to be mentally incapacitated to form this bubble? Does the English law read that B can join with another family but they have to go alone and leave A behind? Or can A go with B? What counts as continuous care? Is it someone who needs full manual handling/feeding/toilet ting/communication only? Or if A is independent in the house this does not count?

The bubble is only seeing people outside in the two houses, due to being CEV A is still at risk so it’s to be able to have some contact.

Photo’s Red - English government law, Yellow - Welsh law.

Voting - Do A&B qualify for a support bubble in both countries?
YABU - Yes they can form a support bubble
YANBU - No they cannot form a support bubble

Does this situation count for forming a support bubble?
Does this situation count for forming a support bubble?
OP posts:
TheFuckingDogs · 27/02/2021 09:16

Oh just bloody bubble up! Do what you need to do

BirdHedge · 01/03/2021 12:25

@TingTastic it is garden only, wouldn’t be taking advantage of the ability to go inside/hug/eat together/stay the night.

@StarCat2020 as a single person you’d have people queuing up for some company. We had a new neighbour who was single and he got several offers from strangers who wanted someone to see once a week for a chat!

@Sciurus83 yes one dose only as CEV, but still acting as not until both doses/B is vaccinated and then advised to continue shielding then.

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