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Original poster

To be shocked that dd’s friend has had 23 mental inpatient admissions

27 replies

Sinceyouwentaway · 14/02/2021 23:23

She only 24 all have been while she’s an adult. I’m surprised as I always thought inpatient admissions were hard to get and that no seems to have done much to Prevent this young woman being admitted countless times

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EveryoneRevealsThemselves · 14/02/2021 23:25

How exactly do you know this?

But I will agree that provisions for mental health care in this country are beyond shocking.

Ludoole · 14/02/2021 23:26

Wouldnt surprise me at all tbh, mental health services are shit.

PanamaPattie · 14/02/2021 23:26

How do you know and why do you care?

Ohalrightthen · 14/02/2021 23:27

Did you think the NHS MH services were fit for purpose? I'd love to be living in your world.

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Sinceyouwentaway · 14/02/2021 23:30

I know because my dd told me. They met as inpatients that was dd’s first admission though

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Lovely1a2b3c · 14/02/2021 23:31

No, that happens unfortunately. Some of them might well have been short stays for suicidal intent but it's not really worth speculating about- poor woman.

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Sinceyouwentaway · 14/02/2021 23:32

I just would have thought more would be done for her rather than keep admitting her

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AIMD · 14/02/2021 23:34

@Sinceyouwentaway

She only 24 all have been while she’s an adult. I’m surprised as I always thought inpatient admissions were hard to get and that no seems to have done much to Prevent this young woman being admitted countless times
It is a lot, but not unheard of. She clearly has quite a serious mental illness. I assume if you weren’t aware of her admissions you probably don’t know what other services she had had either?

What is your reason for asking? Curiosity or you worry she hasn’t accessed suitable care?

itallworkedouthorribly · 14/02/2021 23:34

I expect they're admitting her to get her into a place where they can do something for her.

Viviennemary · 14/02/2021 23:35

I dont think the friendship should be encouraged. This poor girl must have some serious issues and presumably your DD has her own problems to sort out.

Ohalrightthen · 14/02/2021 23:36

@Sinceyouwentaway

I just would have thought more would be done for her rather than keep admitting her
Tories, innit. It's much cheaper to fund an inpatient stay for a few weeks than it is to offer the sort of longterm care and support that people need to truly recover and thrive.
safariboot · 14/02/2021 23:38

Mental illness can be resistant to treatment. I know someone with bipolar disorder and they've had breakdowns whether or not they were taking all their medicine.

PermanentTemporary · 14/02/2021 23:42

It's a conflicting thread for me to read as I feel my husband died because he wasn't admitted; but I know his consultant feels that short admissions do very little to improve outcomes and are an incredibly expensive way to achieve not a lot. This would seem to bear him out.

In general I would feel she is really, really struggling and the treatment she's getting is not really doing the job. I am quite frightened by the state of MH services across the board.

RootyT00t · 14/02/2021 23:49

@PermanentTemporary

It's a conflicting thread for me to read as I feel my husband died because he wasn't admitted; but I know his consultant feels that short admissions do very little to improve outcomes and are an incredibly expensive way to achieve not a lot. This would seem to bear him out.

In general I would feel she is really, really struggling and the treatment she's getting is not really doing the job. I am quite frightened by the state of MH services across the board.

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TheCatThatGotTheCream · 14/02/2021 23:51

It's not unusual at all. I used to work in an acute admissions unit and we had lots of young women who were in and out constantly. As soon as they said the word suicidal, they would get admitted straight away as understandably, the assessing clinician doesn't want to take the risk.

MustardMitt · 14/02/2021 23:53

I think it really depends what her issue is?

If she’s a paranoid shizophrenic who becomes a danger to herself and others and won’t stay on her medication regimen, that’s quite different to a young woman who keeps self harming.

PermanentTemporary · 14/02/2021 23:53

Oh God.

RootyT00t · 14/02/2021 23:55

@Viviennemary

I dont think the friendship should be encouraged. This poor girl must have some serious issues and presumably your DD has her own problems to sort out.
They are 24
JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 14/02/2021 23:56

I used to work for a mental health trust. Sadly whilst this isn't typical it isn't unheard of Sad

CSIblonde · 15/02/2021 08:10

My relative was on a ward with a deaf, schizophrenic girl who is readmitted on a monthly basis. She'd no family & been put in a flat & left to fend for herself. She had learning issues & some other major physical issues. She doesn't take her meds so ends up wandering the streets, delusional. I did venture to her support worker ( her only visitor) that she seemed to require supported housing, but I just got a shrug. (I formed a bit of an attachment because she couldn't read & I read things out for her that were on the noticeboard).

yeOldeTrout · 15/02/2021 08:41

It seems odd she wasn't given longer sectioning orders.

Porridgeoat · 15/02/2021 08:43

She might not have family or friend support and be on her own

Mazzatron · 15/02/2021 09:04

Aftercare just isn't great. When people leave hospital they may need a lot of support to readjust, learn to manage their illness and look after themselves. But the way social service budgets work is that if they can make themselves a meal, remember what time to take their meds and do their shopping / pay bills, they won't get any help. The social services assessments don't take emotional support into account. It's bizarre.
They may have a community mental health practitioner who has the capacity to see them once a week (because they have enormous caseloads).
People with supportive families and friends have much better outcomes.

TeaAndBrie · 15/02/2021 09:27

Short term admissions on a section 136 are for her protection or the protection of others. Some patients are then discharged with a CTO, community treatment order whereby they have to be concordant with the terms or this could lead to a readmission. This could be attending appointments, depot injection etc.
The treatment for MH conditions isn’t instant and can be a long path for people depending on their diagnosis. Every one is different and has different needs. If someone has a broken leg there is a course of action to treat this. If someone has Schizophrenia there is not one way to treat it as everyone is affected differently.

Cabinfever10 · 15/02/2021 09:28

I would expect that the majority of them will be 72 hour holds where they take in people who are at crisis point medicate and asses whether they are an immediate risk to themselves or others (it's actually quite a high threshold to commit someone against there will) if not a place may be offered (if they have space, funding and required) however if a patient refuses or there isn't a bed or funding they just get sent home. The lucky few will get ongoing out patient care but most will be referred back to their gp.
Unfortunately this is the state of mental health services in the UK with "care in the community " and chronic underfunding.