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To not understand the conspiracy

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MeadowViews · 13/02/2021 07:46

My DM has been offered the Covid vaccine but has refused it. She says it's all part of a conspiracy.

She has been going on and on about conspiracy theories and how this is all a set up for 'them' to control 'us all'. Her sources are "a Doctor/what she read on the internet."

She also firmly believes in astrology, psychics, and spiritual healing.

Do I support her in her own personal choice not to get the vaccine (she said "I'm not having it, I know what's really in it") based on random internet findings, or tell her I think she has too much time on her hands?

After nearly a year of her theories my patience is wearing thin.

OP posts:
Winditbackagain · 13/02/2021 10:02

She is an adult and it is her choice. She is entitled to her own beliefs and I think they should be respected, She should also respect your beliefs/decision. No need to discuss further.

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MeadowViews · 13/02/2021 11:29

@BluebellsGreenbells

she proudly told me her neighbour was booked for their vaccine but she talked her out of it

I wouldn’t be so sure. Like all fanatics she will bang on until people agree with her, to her face! Then quietly go and get vaccinated.

Some people would rather nod and agree and ignore. I know I would!

My friend is also anti vaccine, but she’s had Covid already. Her choice, but even with her ramblings I’m still getting mine.

I do hope the neighbour was just being polite!
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ememem84 · 15/02/2021 07:14

@BonnieDundee

Your choice, but what a shame you won't be able to socialise with anyone when the rules are lifted

when did that law get passed? I must have missed it

I know so many people who are saying they won’t see people who haven’t been vaccinated.

There is talk here (jersey) about not being able to do certain things without proof of vaccine once the restrictions are lifted too.

BonnieDundee · 16/02/2021 07:48

I'm.having it but I cant imagine having friends who were so controlling that they wouldnt see me if I didnt have it Shock

ememem84 · 16/02/2021 07:55

I don’t think the people will stop seeing others if I’m honest. I think it’s all bluster.

bobbiester · 16/02/2021 07:57

@BonnieDundee

I'm.having it but I cant imagine having friends who were so controlling that they wouldnt see me if I didnt have it Shock
Friends and relatives who are anti-vaxxers and refused it won't be welcome in our house. This is to protect vulnerable members of our family (not in vaccine age groups) not to "control" the anti-vaxxer.
Hazelnutlatteplease · 16/02/2021 08:05

I'm.having it but I cant imagine having friends who were so controlling that they wouldnt see me if I didnt have it

I have a CEV DS who isnt in line for vaccination at present. We wont be seeing anyone who refuses to have it. It's a persons right to be anti vax, its my right to want nothing to do with them. Thankfully I have very pro vax friends and family

Parky04 · 16/02/2021 08:09

My DM refused the vaccine at first until my sister and I told her that we will no longer see her as we don't want to be the ones who could pass on the virus and potentially kill her. She has now had the vaccine and she had no side effects at all!

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Pukkatea · 16/02/2021 08:20

Wow, people still don't seem to get that vaccination doesn't work if all these people exercise their 'personal choice' to be stupid. Fine, can't force you, can't reason with you, but can bloody well avoid you. Freedom of choice is not freedom from consequences, you want to be part of society and all its freedoms? Take some responsibility in exchange and don't be so selfish as to expect others to do it for you.

Roussette · 16/02/2021 08:21

Fine... be against having the vaccine if that's your thing but DO NOT spend your time trying to talk others out of it.

I would say to your DM that. And tell her how her life might be restricted from now on.

I know someone (friend of a friend) who is/was definitely not having the vaccine. When asked about going to see her Mum in a care home and she might be restricted with that she said 'What will be, will be' Shock

She goes on 'retreats' to Asia twice a year so when asked what she might do if she can't get on a plane without a vaccination, she thought a bit then said 'Oh, maybe I will get vaccinated then'.
Says it all ! Happy to give up seeing her Mother in a care home but not happy to give up her holidays!

Lots of people who won't have the vaccine will soon change their minds...

Gurufloof · 16/02/2021 08:25

using it to reduce the size of the population because of climate change

Wouldnt just letting the virus run rampant have the same effect?

AlternativePerspective · 16/02/2021 08:29

I don’t think anyone should feel they have to respect someone’s belief in this crap.

Fine if she doesn’t want the vaccine then whatever, obviously no-one will be able to visit her in hospital if she catches COVID and dies, but hey ho. Added to which I wouldn’t be the one wanting to pass it on so guess we wouldn’t be seeing each other any more and she wouldn’t be seeing the grandchildren any more either. But those are the choices she’s made....

As for the people claiming that the vaccine contains a chip which will track your every move, presumably the irony that they are watching, and sharing this kind of conspiracy rubbish on mobile phones which already have the power to track them is not lost?

The government don’t need to insert a chip to track you. They already know where you are.

ScrapThatThen · 16/02/2021 08:35

Could you show her something like this to counteract www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/blogs-trending-56047409

RealisticSketch · 16/02/2021 08:36

I wouldn't personally remind her how only the chosen vaccinated ones will have freedom to do stuff... That'll only reinforce her views that it's population control.
It is her body and choice so galling though it is you have to accept it. But that doesn't mean you can't challenge the basis for it and keep chipping away at her certainty that her sources are the real McCoy while the rest of us are hoodwinked.

SimonJT · 16/02/2021 08:37

You really can’t change fanatics, they can only change when they decide to change.

We have a colleague who has fallen down the conspiracy rabbit hole, she doesn’t believe in covid and is very vocal about her reasons, she is also part of a large anti covid facebook group and takes part in arranged activities, such as going into shops without mask, she also attended a demo outside St Thomas’ hospital.

She won’t be having the vaccine as she thinks it alters your DNA meaning you are no longer human, but part human and part synthetic being, she thinks it is the move towards people and AI being as one. Like she genuinely believes it 100%.

As her views are so extreme the company have had to provide additional guidance on covid talk as she passing on her ‘knowledge’ to clients.

Jgdgjbdssvuuuuu · 16/02/2021 08:41

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unchienandalusia · 16/02/2021 08:43

@Pukkatea

Freedom of choice is not freedom from consequences,

^^This!!

there is a direct correlation between intelligence and willingness to have the vaccine.

Brefugee · 16/02/2021 08:51

I'm.having it but I cant imagine having friends who were so controlling that they wouldnt see me if I didnt have it

That's only evidence that your imagination is sorely lacking. But there you go - you will be rid of your controlling friends and they won't have to be at risk. Sounds like a win-win to me.

OP, it's all been said i think, but bottom line it is up to adults to make up their minds for themselves. It frees up a vaccine for someone who wants it. And later if they find their lives restricted, they can change their minds, i suppose.

TheCatThatGotTheCream · 16/02/2021 09:03

@BonnieDundee

I'm.having it but I cant imagine having friends who were so controlling that they wouldnt see me if I didnt have it Shock
I'm not sure why thats classed as controlling? Surely if people have concerns that as an unvaccinated person, you may pose a risk to them, then they have the right to distance themselves from you? That's not controlling.
GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 16/02/2021 09:15

IMO this is more of a Thing with people who’ve been isolated with a lot of empty time to fill. A former colleague of mine - perfectly sane and rational (I’d always have thought) who is retired and lives alone, so deprived of all usual company, has evidently been following loads of this stuff online. He sent me a link to a talk by an extremely persuasive and intelligent sounding elderly man, who looked and sounded at first sight like some eminent senior academic.

But it was the same old batshit nonsense.

FoxyTheFox · 16/02/2021 09:17

Send her this

vm.tiktok.com/ZMeL5JU54/

Soundbyte · 16/02/2021 09:50

What @Pukkatea said!

C130 · 16/02/2021 10:03

@Graciebobcat

Your choice, but what a shame you won't be able to socialise with anyone when the rules are lifted.
Why? Who is going to stop them?
Inpersuitofhappiness · 16/02/2021 10:04

Trying to talk sense to her will only make you argue.

Sorry that you're in this position.

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