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Why trolls make up threads on here ?

246 replies

Happyone8 · 06/02/2021 11:20

I’m fairly new to Aibu and have been on two troll threads recently. One was about dating and was three threads long , where I took time giving lots of advice over several weeks . Ends up it was someone making it up and she/he had several other threads running too. Another thread from someone else has been shut down this morning for a similar reason .
Just wondering why someone would make stuff up ? It must be so boring and pointless! Also now don’t feel like investing time to freeing advice as feel that it’s all made up .
Is there a way to spot these people ??

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NoWordForFluffy · 06/02/2021 18:01

@Arobase, that's got a second thread running now.

BalloonSlayer · 06/02/2021 18:01

Yeah maybe, you're right we can't tell

Angrymum22 · 06/02/2021 18:03

Trolls are like those FB divas who post weird fishing comments seeking validation or attention.
The first Troll I came across,20yrs ago was on a health support forum for endometriosis. The first time I engaged with her/him I was sent a pm from another user warning me about the troll.
She had made up a really elaborate sob story that just kept getting better and better as time went on. I actually felt very sorry for her. I imagined some sad old spinster sat behind a screen living out a health fantasy. I suspect most of them have social problems and mn is the only engagement they have with other people.
It may well be a cry for help but via the Internet it goes mostly unheard.

RootyT00t · 06/02/2021 18:03

@NoWordForFluffy her???? What a shit troll!!

WorraLiberty · 06/02/2021 18:03

@BalloonSlayer

Yeah maybe, you're right we can't tell
Mind you having said that, that's where the report button comes in handy and not troll hunting with a poster like that, just in case they are for real.
babbaloushka · 06/02/2021 18:16

Can anyone summarise Balonz or the Fixin Saga? Wracking my brains to remember what happened but I can't. Worry I'm a bit useless at spotting trolls too, but I do think some of the SA ones are perfect for sick fuckers to take pleasure from descriptions of women's assault.

RaspberryCoulis · 06/02/2021 18:21

Balonz was in the baby names forum - shall I call my baby (something very ordinary like) William, or Balonz?

Op refused to believe that Balonz wasn't a perfectly ordinary boys name just like William or James or Edward.

Sparklingbrook · 06/02/2021 18:21

Balonz was a baby name IIRC?

BigBadVoodooHat · 06/02/2021 18:30

[quote RootyT00t]@NoWordForFluffy her???? What a shit troll!![/quote]
There is an actual ‘shit troll’ on here, as it happens 🤢

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 06/02/2021 18:35

For me the thing to remember, if you get sucked in, is sometimes, someone in a genuine situation will still get to read the advice. I can usually spot trolls though.

Happyone8 · 06/02/2021 18:38

@Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel agree with that . I know that dating one was a good debate on whether to text chase guys. Was a good poster on there called bibberty who spoke a lot of sense and some other posters mentioned they had learnt a lot.

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PurpleWh1teGreen · 06/02/2021 18:43

I'd add to that list those with a grudge against healthcare workers/teachers/retail workers who didn't bow down sufficiently before them. I've met a few people like this in real life.

Other breeds to look out for - creative writing enthusiasts, journalists and throw-a-grenade-in-for-screen-grabs activists.

PurpleWh1teGreen · 06/02/2021 18:44

Sorry - that was a reply to way upthread. Bloody real life interfering with mumsnetting

2021hwg · 06/02/2021 18:56

I admit that sometimes I make up troll treads in my head. If I am out for a walk and I see something happen for example, a dog jump up at a child, I start writing the thread in my head, and add loads of detail to get people in a froth. It's a nice way to pass time on a walk. Obviously I never actually write them but I guess other people do

icecreamgirl94 · 06/02/2021 19:00

I’m glad a couple of other posters have mentioned being banned when they weren’t trolls. I mentioned this in another thread a few days ago about a friend of a friend of a friend who this happened to. I’ve never met her in real life but she did have a lot of drama going on, all the typical troll warning signs really, pregnant at a young age, father not involved, then he was involved and they got back together, had another baby very quickly afterwards, then first child because ill and they split up again and she found out she was pregnant again shortly after that. All sounds ridiculous and far fetched which was probably the reason she was removed, but it was all genuine and she was gutted not to have the support of the site anymore. Apparently she swapped numbers with someone on here who just stopped replying to her once she’d been removed so obviously believed she was a troll too. So I’ve seen plenty of threads on here where I think nah that’s rubbish, but because of what happened to that girl, I’m never quite sure whether it is genuine but just sounds unbelievable.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/02/2021 19:20

I also remember seeing a lighthearted, fun Christmas thread that you'd have thought could have offended no one derailed by an influx of real, vampiric, fun-draining nastiness. One poster joined by 2 or 3 others saying how offensive they'd found the content, although the thread title made that context clear and explicit. The one I saw was about fridges. I didn't post on it.

Child recently diagnosed with cancer: I saw the thread title of that one and didn't click on it, and am pleased I didn't. But given what posters have written above that seems to have been a particularly loathsome example. The older I get the less surprised I am by the depths to which some people will sink. But that sounds low.

The creepy fetishist threads might as well come with flashing red lights and bells on, they are so obvious. It surprises me how often people willingly supply them with the fodder they crave. Ditto the activists.

There are some good things about suspension of disbelief on certain threads, which are that if those threads are genuine this site has enabled some women to recognise their situations or relationships are not normal, that they are victims of abuse. Some may have been in genuine need or distress. Trolls or no trolls I'll continue to try to support those people. The worst that can happen is I'll be made a fool of, or someone will use my real, shared experiences of abuse to get off on, but if that happens I'm just text on a screen to them. They don't know no I am, ergo can't hurt me, and I might be able to help someone else.

That's an informed choice on my part. It isn't necessarily just about a site full of gullible users.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 06/02/2021 19:22

Sorry - should have read 'they don't know who I am'

SerialThreadHider · 06/02/2021 19:46

Am I the only one who 🙄 at people who write "I've been on MN for x number of years..."?

They generally write it in a smug manner as if to say "I'm an expert here, trust me I know what I'm saying". Who cares?

Anyway OP, I've been on MN for 1 hour and 30 seconds and I tells you I knows all there are to knows about trolls. Just pm me and I'll give you all the details, hun.

Seriously, don't pm please but goodluck with your thread.

HitchFlix · 06/02/2021 19:47

I suspect many have real mental health or personality disorders. It’s a way to feel validated, get attention and support, and perhaps to distract them from their real problems.

I mostly think this too. Although it is annoying I do feel a modicum of sympathy as how rubbish must your life be if this is the only way you can get attention/people to talk to you. IRL these people will be odd-balls and easily spotted.

Sparklingbrook · 06/02/2021 19:54

@SerialThreadHider

Am I the only one who 🙄 at people who write "I've been on MN for x number of years..."?

They generally write it in a smug manner as if to say "I'm an expert here, trust me I know what I'm saying". Who cares?

Anyway OP, I've been on MN for 1 hour and 30 seconds and I tells you I knows all there are to knows about trolls. Just pm me and I'll give you all the details, hun.

Seriously, don't pm please but goodluck with your thread.

All I personally meant by it was that over those 'x number of years' and seeing many many trolly threads I got to know what to look out for. Many follow a similar pattern and the posting style is the same over many weeks/months. It doesn't make me an 'expert' I have just experienced the troll madness more than someone who has been on MN for '1 hour and 30 seconds' that's all.
SerialThreadHider · 06/02/2021 19:57

Actually in real life, a lot of people who appear "normal" and seem to be functioning perfectly in society are 'oddballs' on the inside. The only place they can come alive is online, where no one knows.

Online oddballs also include some of the posters here who go on and on about how they hate trolls, think they have mental health issues and are oddballs (Not referring to anyone here in particular, just something I've proven a few times).

Some of these people get off on attacking the oddballs like everyone else when they know they are one as well. Fortunately for them on MN, they can namechange to fulfill their oddball fantasies then change back to their normal and 'popular' name, acting as if it's the only username they ever post under.

Oddballs are everywhere and in different masks. They aren't always trolls though.

I'm an oddball myself but at least I'm aware of it

BronwenFrideswide · 06/02/2021 20:30

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babbaloushka · 06/02/2021 20:43

BronwenFrideswide The plot thickens...

Happyone8 · 06/02/2021 20:44

what did bronwen write?

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BronwenFrideswide · 06/02/2021 20:44

Well how interesting my post has been hidden, it was all factual and part of MN history.Hmm