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What would you do?

24 replies

BlueBeeryPie · 06/02/2021 05:42

My father is in his early 90's and lives alone since the death of my mother ten years ago. He's in reasonable but declining health though quite self-sufficient. He recently suggested my husband and I go and live with him, saying he would love to have me around (we are very close) and how handy my husband would be for practical matters. The benefits of this would be twofold, he would have our support and company and we would be closer to him and not have to pay rent. Our children have all left home so it wouldn't be unfeasible however I am wondering if it would work.

On the one hand the thought of being close to him is lovely, especially to give him love and care, though he can be demanding and judgemental. Pre pandemic we visited weekly and helped out a lot.

He is very wealthy with a decent sized house but when the discussions first came up he suggested converting several outhouses into a self-contained apartment (which would have been better) but that idea has suddenly changed and become living in the actual house with him. He's pointing out how much rent we would save and how much more space we would have. It's true, we've always struggled financially despite working hard whereas my four siblings are all very comfortable. But I don't want this to be about being better off financially...he lives in a very remote location which I don't especially like and I would have a long daily commute to my job which I'm not prepared to give up as I've worked my way up and love it. My dad has hinted that I could find another job in his area, which would pay less and he would compensate. My husband can work from anywhere with his job and is very easy going and amenable to the idea.

I'm scared to give up my independence and life I enjoy but am feeling guilty and torn over what to do. I think the pandemic has made my father incredibly lonely hence he's come up with this idea.
What would you honestly do?

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Imworthit · 06/02/2021 06:17

How does your husband feel?

Would you revert to being an adult child?

Is he expecting you to be his carer?

Would there be resentment with your siblings?

Is he the type to pull the strings?

If you regret it what’s your plan?

If you don’t spend his last years with him will it eat you up?

I moved in with my mum and there are financial benefits. I’m so glad I get to spend this time with her. And my partner is happy here too. However I would rather live elsewhere when she’s gone. I did revert to a fucking teenage at the start but that’s calmed down.

Imworthit · 06/02/2021 06:21

Couldn’t he come to live near you? Sell his house. If your happy and settled your inevitability going to have more things going on e.g work, friends etc.

HappyFlamingo · 06/02/2021 06:25

Maybe you could give it a go? But definitely don't find a new job nearby. Stick with your current job until you are absolutely sure that this is going to work out. In fact even if it does work out, presumably it is likely to be relatively short term (really sorry to sound harsh but your dad is in his 90s), so still stick with your current job.

katmarie · 06/02/2021 06:52

What happens if he passes away? Would the home be split among your siblings and you? In which case would you have to move out? It happened to a relative of mine and caused a nasty family rift, he'd cared for their father until he died, and was effectively made homeless by his siblings who wanted their share of the estate. Its not nice to think about but you need to be prepared.

user1471462115 · 06/02/2021 06:53

And will he leave you the house with no share to your siblings when he inevitably passes on ?
Or will your siblings need the house sold to get their share and leave you homeless.
I wouldn’t give up my independence for my parents.

Poppins2016 · 06/02/2021 06:59

Is there room for a compromise, such as living together in a different location so that you could continue to work?

user1493413286 · 06/02/2021 07:03

My main query would be what would happen when he passes on? I really wouldn’t change your job as if something were to happen to your dad in the near future you’re stuck with a job paying less that you didn’t want in an area you no longer live.
You’d also have to leave his house as I’m imagining that the house would be left to all your siblings.
I would offer for him to live with you and he contributes to rent for a larger property if necessary.

Chunkymenrock · 06/02/2021 07:12

I would not want to live IN an elderly man's house, but I think this is a golden opportunity for him to sell and move to a smaller, easily maintained place near you, where you are able to help him as much as he needs. As his physical ability is only going to theoretically decline as time goes by, moving now and sorting out the masses of stuff he doubtless has is an excellent plan. I wouldn't change where I lived and was content, for a situation that would likely be unstable in 10 years' time, or so.

Ponoka7 · 06/02/2021 07:19

You've got to think practically. As well as anyone is in their 90's, they are very frail physically speaking and things can change overnight. So he could pass away or need Nursing care.

Consider how he would pay for care and what your inheritance will be. Because you'd be starting again, finding a place to rent etc. If you wouldn't get enough to buy that is.

Secondly, what would your evenings look like? Would it be sitting keeping him company watching what television he wants? How much couple time would you get, on top of a big commute, it could quickly feel as though you have no time together.

I know someone who has their father to stay for three months of the year and they are at breaking point as it comes to the end.

Lemmeout · 06/02/2021 07:30

Make a practical plan. I would be concerned about where I was going to live when the time comes and he passes away. My siblings did a similar thing recently, I did all running around, lost time from work, not to mention the emotional stress. They sat asking for updates and waiting to be paid.

HangryPants · 06/02/2021 08:01

I would not do this, I’ve seen similar and it never works. For the best of intentions, the adult offspring make all of the sacrifices.

BlueBeeryPie · 06/02/2021 10:22

Ponoka7
Thanks for your comments, no we wouldn't be watching TV as he disapproves of people lying around watching TV so that would be a no no.

Chunkymenrock
Unfortunately he wouldn't want to move....he is comfortable where he is with all his things around him so that's not an option.

1471462115
Good point! Yes we could find ourselves compromised with the house being sold and having to start again...

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HangryPants · 06/02/2021 10:56

no we wouldn't be watching TV as he disapproves of people lying around watching TV so that would be a no no.

What if you wanted to sit around watching TV one night or every night ?

I think that there is a serious danger here that you're going to compromise your happiness and home for a man who is not willing to compromise and in circumstances that could change extremely quickly.

Is there some FOG going on here?

Marinaloves · 06/02/2021 11:08

In all honesty he probably doesn’t have that many years left. Are you going to get kicked out of the house when he dies?
Are your siblings going to try and not charge you back rent (this has happened to someone I know)
I think it really depends on your siblings attitude, because that will be what makes your life hell when he’s dead.
Also what the fuck is wrong with lazing around watching telly

Sulkywoman · 06/02/2021 11:10

Too many women have sacrificed themselves to others’ needs. Some of us have always been closely interlinked with parents and siblings and the expectations of close relationships and living nearby is assumed. Others have lived lives pretty much separately from our birth families and the expectations have never been to have such interconnected lives. In that case if it applies to you, I would hang on to your job if you enjoy it and stay independent as I doubt you will be thanked for what you have to give up. It would be better to to continue a relatively friendly relationship with your father at a distance than jump into financial dependency which could be precarious as others have pointed out. Loneliness is a problem especially now, but what are/ were his interests? Would it be worth looking at supported living options nearer to you?

tobedtoMNandfart · 06/02/2021 11:12

Move in in haste... repent at leisure.

tobedtoMNandfart · 06/02/2021 11:16

Just read you have 4 siblings. I can't see how this whole situation wouldn't descend into something very messy indeed. Sorry- cynical I know.

Supersimkin2 · 06/02/2021 11:19

Who's he left the house to?

If it's not you, you'll be homeless.

If there's a massive tax bill to pay on his estate, you'll be homeless as the house will be sold to pay it.

user1465423698 · 06/02/2021 11:25

That sounds like a terrible idea for many reasons and it seems the only reason you're not saying no is because you feel guilty?

TaraR2020 · 06/02/2021 12:02

I think you've answered your own question tbh...don't do it.

The reasons you've given for not moving in with him are very strong and cant be ignored. I know you want to be there for him and I understand it sounds like an opportunity at first glance, but you've already listed a lot of reasons why the reality would make you regret it.

I'm guessing your dad is feeling especially lonely right now and my heart goes out to him,but don't be guilted into something you feel is wrong for you both.

SmeleanorSmellstrop · 06/02/2021 12:23

I'd definitely definitely do it and make the most of my last few years with my dad. Maybe give it a try?

Floralnomad · 06/02/2021 12:28

I wouldn’t do it , do you want to end up being his full time live in carers ?

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 06/02/2021 12:32

No, I’d welcome him moving close to spend time with but wouldn’t move in with him. I wouldn’t think it fair on a spouse plus the potential to be homeless at the end of it and maybe jobless.

SaltyTootsieToes · 08/02/2021 12:35

If your DH is ok with it and the house does allow some Soave for you and your DH to have space to yourselves, I’d certainly give it a try.

However, I’d be putting into a savings account what you’re saving on what you’d be paying for your rent so when the time comes that you may need to vacate his home (ie care home fees or perhaps after his death and house being sold to split proceeds with your siblings, or if things don’t work out), then you’ll have a good amount of savings to either have a deposit for your own home purchase or deposit for a rental and money to kit it out.

Given his age, sadly you know in any event that it won’t be a significant long term situation.

Oh and I’d suggest you keep your job as your pension/NI contributions remain the same for your future. If you leave your job for your DF to compensate you, these contributions won’t be made and you will also be without the income (or seniority/experience) once he’s sadly gone.

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