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To go NC with this person

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SummerBlondey · 02/02/2021 14:50

Would be very interested if anyone has had a friend, partner or sibling that behaves as my sister does. I have had to go NC after years of strange behaviour and I just have no idea what is wrong with her.

Some examples:

On my Mum's 70th birthday we all went away to a cottage (Mum, Dad, Me, DH, her, her DH and their toddler). Half way through the evening (after several drinks) she stood up and announced to the room that no-one in the world had any right to give her DD chocolate, because she “came from my womb”. She then said something negative about having to live close to the Grandparents (my Mum and Dad) to which my Mum got very upset. (she lives 5 mins from parents, I live 350 miles away due to work). By now, Sister was drunk and screaming, would not be quiet and the whole night was ruined. After this, she blamed me for the whole incident, saying that if I had been able to diffuse the situation, everything would have been fine (I tried).

I should mention at this point, that she has caused huge arguments at LOTS of family events, not just this one, but this felt worse as it was Mums 70th.

When she was 26 she got married to a guy that was a bit of a knob. On her hen night she had a bit of a wobble about the wedding, but was pissed. She now blames me for this wedding going ahead, and tells everyone that she was a vulnerable 23 y/o at the time, not 26. She also says that I left the day after the Hen do without a backward glance, but actually, I spent the whole day cleaning her house from top to bottom, because the stag do had ended up there, and everyone was on drugs and they trashed the place. When I remind her of this, she says she doesn't remember.

She gets annoyed that I can't attend her DD's birthday party every year. But I work for myself, and her DD's birthday is one of my busiest times of year, and I would have to cancel all my clients for at least 3 days, costing me £100's of pounds. I've managed twice to do it though, but logistically it was a nightmare. I always send expensive gifts though, call and sing happy birthday etc. She tells people that she came to all of my children's birthdays, but this isn't true, and even if it was, we only lived 35 minutes apart at that time, not 6 hours apart.

She says that I did not visit when her baby was born. Her baby was 22 days early, and my diary was packed full of clients. What we did do, is drive down the day before the baby's due date though. This happened to be my DH birthday, so he spent his birthday driving for 6 hours. We took lots of gifts etc. This is never acknowledged.

She told our Mum that when she had a miscarriage that my response was “Oh well. Summer babies are better anyway”. This is an out and out lie. What I actually said was something along the lines of being sure that she'd get pregnant again really quickly and will have a lovely baby by next summer.

Another time, when her DD was about 3, she accused me of only having seen her DD twice in her lifetime, and that on both occasions she had had to bring her DD to us. In fact, at that point we had seen her 10 times, and on 8 of those occasions we had done the travelling.
One time, we travelled down for her birthday. We met at a theme park, and then spent the night at her house. Once she was drunk, she accused me of being an alcoholic because I had had a cider with lunch. She then followed me around the house, and wouldn't let me go to bed. At one point she had me cornered in the bedroom. At 7am, I had to bundle the kids in to the car and leave, just to get away.

I offered to look after her DD in the school summer holidays. She replied that that wouldn't be happening because due to me moving away, her DD would not ever know me properly. She also said that if her and her DH died, that her DD would go to her friend, for the same reason. (This friend no longer talks to her btw)

Last year, I was caring for our ill Mum and she invited me to her house for dinner one night. She got drunk and said a few nasty things, but I just went to bed. She couldn't really stop me, as I was sleeping in her DD room. However, the next morning she started screaming in my face and doing the whole following me around the house thing – in front of the kids. I could feel my heart racing, so I tried to retaliate as little as possible, I packed my bag and left and went to my parents. I said how fast my heart was going, so Dad used his blood pressure machine on me, and the reading was so bad he called an ambulance. I thought this was a bit OTT, but when the paramedics arrived they said I absolutely had to go to hospital and I was blue lighted there. Tests were done, and I was told that I'd had a panic attack. Sister knows all of this and has never apologised. My DH was so worried, that he did a 12 hour round trip to bring me home.

Since our Mum has died, my sister and I have had to communicate lots about our Dad, as he is pretty useless. Even though I am far away, I have done hundreds of things for him, to set him up in his new life in a retirement village. I went down there and did loads of manual work, like clearing the loft, garage and shed of the family home before it sold, took stuff to charity shops etc. Because the messaging had increased, so had the opportunity for her to reprimand me over perceived things that I have done “wrong”. The messages have been so frequent (up to 30 a day) that it got to the point that when my phone pinged my heart rate would shoot up and I would get an adrenaline shot go through me. My adult DD who lives with us has seen the messages and has been telling me for months to stick up for myself, but in all honesty I was always trying to calm her down.

Anyway, cutting to a few weeks ago, our elderly Dad decided to cancel his cleaner, just until he has had his vaccinations for Covid (because the cleaner kept taking her mask off). Cleaner only came for 1 hour every fortnight, so was only doing the minimum of cleaning the loo, changing the bed and mopping the floor. Cue dozens of messages to me from her, moaning that she would not have time to clean his flat. I responded saying that if she didn't clean it, then perhaps he would realise he needed he cleaner and reinstate her (although I'd rather he didn't due to covid risk, but was trying to calm her down). Cue messages to me telling me that me and my DH are “Happy to let Dad hit rock bottom and live in filth etc”, and how “she would never allow that so she will do his cleaning”. I'm afraid something in that last message just blew me away, even though in reality she has said far worse in the past. And I withdrew and we didn't talk for 3 weeks. Yesterday I get a message all nicey nicey, asking me to facetime the kids, and almost inferring that I would be a bad Aunty if I don't.

I'm exhausted with it all. On top of all this, we have just found out that DH's dad has got cancer. When I mentioned this to her she was quite brusque, and said that Mum dying and DH dad having cancer aren't her fault.

I'm so flabbergasted that I have blocked her on every platform and realise that I just can't speak with her any more. I have messaged her DH to say that I am available at any time to speak to the kids. I did not tell him about anything else. Although I'm 100% sure that she will have given him her version of events painting me as the villain.

It is not just me that has withdrawn from her. She has lost at least 4 friends that I know of. Her DH's Aunt refuses to speak to her (don't know the details). She has also been disciplined at 2 separate work places for bullying, and in one case she was accused of “threatening to punch a female colleague in the face”. In one of these cases, I know that she was considering accusing a man of sexual harassment, even though this had not happened. She was ejected from a campsite a few years ago by management, for her behaviour (I don't know any more than this).

She has decided to appoint herself as the Covid police in supermarkets and has taken to shouting at shoppers if they don't wear a mask.

I should add that she can also be lovely at times, and is extremely generous, although of late I am seeing that side less & less.

I know she is in a bad place, but I just don't think I can take any more, for my own sake or that of my family around me who see me in this position.

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Bythemillpond · 04/02/2021 14:32

Why don’t you believe she is an alcoholic?

Has she ever not drank alcohol if she gets together with people and she knows she becomes an angry drunk

Just because someone doesn’t have a glass in their hand 24/7 doesn’t mean they aren’t an alcoholic

AIMD · 04/02/2021 14:37

Go no or very low contact.
You are getting nothing, expect abuse, from this relationship, so why keep contact?

People like this don’t change abs I would t want my children around behaviour and dynamics like this.

WhatKatyDidNxt · 04/02/2021 14:46

I would be going for LC or NC. My mums sister sounds a lot like your sister and it’s incredibly draining. Does anyone else in the family pull her up about her behaviour or challenge her? She never seems to want to take any responsibility

windisblowing · 04/02/2021 15:12

I would definitely go LC, might be less drama than NC (for your DC and hers). My sister is the same, I did block on her on everything at one point, and then allowed less frequent communication to creep back in. It is awful to be treated that way and I have had enough of it. I just don't engage the same way that I used to, and keep my distance from her when we are in the same place.

SummerBlondey · 06/02/2021 10:36

Updates:

So, the day that I went NC, I had received a text from my sister, saying that even though we had fallen out, that her and her DH wanted me to regularly FaceTime their children.

Of course, I do want to keep contact with them. So, I texted her DH a few days ago to try to set this up, but received no reply.

Just in case he had changed his number, last night I sent a message to him via Messenger saying that I'd love to FaceTime the kids.

Woke up this morning to this reply:

"Hi yep got your message, to be honest I'm reluctant to get the kid's caught in the middle of this...we can have a rethink around this when the dust has settled a bit..."

So basically, even though they both asked me to FaceTime, he is now saying the opposite. This effectively kills all contact between my niece and nephew.

I know that this will now be portrayed to friends as me cutting the contact and not caring about the children.

Would you reply to that?

I feel utterly exhausted and like I am being played like a pawn here.

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Bythemillpond · 06/02/2021 10:42

I would reply

Whatever

Then close all avenues of communications down.

I did note it was you who had to do the FaceTiming and not them putting theirselves out. Set up so you have to do something so then it is your fault. They don’t do anything so it can’t be their fault.

Gatehouse77 · 06/02/2021 10:45

I would absolutely go NC with her.

I don't believe that just because you're related you should have to accept and put up with appalling behaviour.

One of the great joys of being an independent adult is that I can choose who I spend time with. Why would I choose to do that with someone bent on being destructive, vindictive, untruthful and a manipulator of facts?

Gatehouse77 · 06/02/2021 10:46

In respect of your more recent post, I would accept their choice and communicate with your niece and nephew via letters and cards.

Thehop · 06/02/2021 11:06

I can’t believe you took this shit for so long.

Cut them off. Her and her bloody husband. Facebook, messenger, phone, everything.

Send the kids birthday and Christmas cards/presents/letters if you want to. Recorded delivery and keep proof. They’ll be able to contact you themselves soon enough.

SummerBlondey · 06/02/2021 11:13

Oh and just to mention also, we found out a few days ago that DH's Dad has cancer. They both know this. Neither one as messaged my DH with any words of condolence. Just. Nothing.

Says it all really. It's all about them. And no one else matters. That's how it feels anyway.

I also found out from my Dad, that they travelled 100 miles yesterday to view a show home. So apparently, they are also exempt from Lockdown Hmm

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icedgem85 · 06/02/2021 14:16

YABU for that awful response to her miscarriage, but otherwise she sounds like a total nightmare. I couldn’t go NC with family though, I don’t know how people do that.

Bythemillpond · 06/02/2021 14:47

I also found out from my Dad, that they travelled 100 miles yesterday to view a show home. So apparently, they are also exempt from Lockdown

You can view houses in this lockdown.

Gottalovesummer · 06/02/2021 15:01

There is so much going on here but one thing that stood out to me was that she is very angry and resentful at doing anything for your DF and is taking it out on you. She seems very resentful all round about your DF and your late mother.

However, this is not your fault and she shouldn't be venting all this onto you. She sounds utterly unreasonable and exhausting.

SummerBlondey · 06/02/2021 15:01

I don't think you're supposed to travel 100 miles from home though?

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SummerBlondey · 06/02/2021 15:04

She sounds utterly unreasonable and exhausting

Very much so, it was making me ill.

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Gottalovesummer · 06/02/2021 15:08

I'm not surprised it's been making you ill.

She sounds very unstable and I feel sorry for her children (and you)

lyralalala · 06/02/2021 15:21

Are they really likely to move 100 miles away or is that just something being said to get you panicking about your Dad being left alone if they move?

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 06/02/2021 15:27

My gut feeling about all this is that you and your sister are probably both best off with Low contact with the other.

Her drunken histrionics are awful.

But you have been insensitive to her miscarriage (even on your own account). Actually, having considered it again I still think that response from you was truly awful (and the fact you think it’s ok does ignite concern in me about your other responses).

Rather than see yourself as a victim, I suspect the relationship was, as is often the case, a bit more nuanced than that. She is probably feeling hurt too. Move on by all means. But I don’t think this is entirely one sided.

Chailatteplease · 06/02/2021 15:27

@icedgem85 because sometimes it’s necessary to preserve your own mental health. People usually struggle with guilt hugely making that decision, your comment of “I don’t know how people do that” is unhelpful. If you don’t have experience of something, don’t pass comment.

Thehop · 06/02/2021 15:29

Going NC with my mother was the best thing I ever did for me and my family.

AubergineDream · 06/02/2021 15:30

She does sound like an alcoholic to me. Not everyone is a daily drinker, but this was my pattern. Binge drinking and being out of control and treating anyone near me as an emotional punchbag basically. I stopped drinking and had to work out better ways to process and deal with all my anger and all the trauma I'd been through. It's been a long process, that would not have happened if I was still drinking at all

Chailatteplease · 06/02/2021 15:30

@Thehop snap.

Thehop · 06/02/2021 15:36

@Chailatteplease people seem very offended by it. Her sister was utterly frantic and, 3 years later is only pretending to like us to be able to tell me to drop “all this silly nonsense”

To others, she was marvellous. They don’t get it. The older I get the less I care what they think. The relief is immeasurable.

I’m glad you’ve found peace too.

Chailatteplease · 06/02/2021 15:45

@Thehop yep, can relate to all of that. It’s hard for people to understand your reasons when they don’t know the version of the person you know.
That made me doubt my decision for too long and put off cutting ties.
Life is now more peaceful, glad it’s that way for you too!

SummerBlondey · 06/02/2021 15:53

Are they really likely to move 100 miles away or is that just something being said to get you panicking about your Dad being left alone if they move?

They are looking to move to a new home very close to where they currently live, however, the only estate that has the show home, (for the house type they like) is 100 miles away.

I'm glad other people have gone NC and found peace.

I have spent my whole adult life trying to reason with her and calm her down. I am in my 50's now and I just can't face this aggression on a daily basis until I die.

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