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To not understand what he wants?

44 replies

Daisyxchain · 23/01/2021 21:20

Dating a bloke for several months. He's my boyfriend since October too. Like everyone else we have ended up locked down and unable to meet since. So we've had to phone romance it. Which has been lovely and still enjoyable. We have kept the passion Alive and continued to send gifts and have lovely conversations.

Unfortunately his depression has gotten terrible since Christmas. He improved for a week but then it came back after stopping a medication for pain last week.

He's spoken about it to me. I understand that right now he isn't thinking about sex. He's not in a romantic mood. He's barely able to chat some days. He's struggling and can't always sleep. It's a big change from how he was with me before.

So a few times this week I've suggested we cool it off. I've offered friendship and stuff. Space too. He always responds with nothings changed. I still love you. I still feel the same about you.

Today he's been chattier. But just normal day to day chat. No humour. No compliments. No cheeky comments still. Just feels like I'm struggling to navigate this big change. I feel like his mum asking him how he feels rather than us enjoying our relationship.

So tonight I text him to say I'm missing him and hope we can go back to chatting how we did. He said he didn't understand what we had lost. He called me and said he hates messages like that and he dreaded them. I just tried to talk about it openly. The thing is we haven't been involved long enough for long term problems like this. It is a horrible feeling.

The last seven days I've had him on the phone ranting and stressed. Dismissing my feelings. Getting defensive. But then saying he still loves me. It hasn't been easy some days.

Last Saturday he sent me flowers. We spoke on the phone. He told me to keep messaging him whilst he watched football. I said there was no need. He said I love it when you message me because I wish you was here with me. The next day he completely changed.

Anyway In my heart I feel it's over. This isn't what I wanted. It's rubbish. But everytime I try and end it he insists nothings changed and he's feeling much better. I know he attempted suicide in the past and only survived because he was found. So I don't want to tip him over the edge.

He popped around his neighbours tonight to help with something. He said I'll text you when I get home. He's been on Facebook for ages and nothing.

Feels so confusing. He doesn't want to end but doesn't have the energy for me right now either.

What would you do.

OP posts:
GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 24/01/2021 09:04

Totally agree with @youvegottenminuteslynn Just end it.

I honestly think women are conditioned to this kind of crap from men. I'd also suggest it sounds like he love bombed you somewhat too. This bloke is not good for you, anyone who adversely affects your mental health is not good news. Let him go...and please block him everywhere because as sure as shooting he'll come crawling back.

midnightstar66 · 24/01/2021 09:53

It's your opportunity to end it OP, I doubt this is out of character I suspect he love bombed you and this is who he is. Even if I'm wrong to don't have to put up with being treated appallingly because someone is suffering from depression. Is there a reason you have continued seeing each other as a support bubble/ extended household? This time round lockdown does not prevent single couples spending time in each other's homes!

Daisyxchain · 24/01/2021 10:05

Thank you. I agree. Perhaps his depressions makes him go to intense to make things work then when he's down he can't push it.

Either way I've had enough. I've not sent a message this morning and I'm feeling ready to end it.

I have children and he's still working full time so we've not been meeting. Although we've discussed meeting next week for a walk one evening.

I agree that I come across in this post needy. But my last relationship was 8 years and not once did he ever make me feel like this guy does. I used to sleep easy at night and never felt stressed. He definitely is changing my moods. I can feel on days when he's distant I can't relax. I have no idea why. But I think it reminds me of my early twenties. I spent 5 years from 18-23 with two boyfriends and they both made me feel exactly how this man does. They were into other women and made me feel rubbish about myself. I swore I would never sit up at night like that again.

I know he doesn't mean to be cold or distant. He has a lifelong pain that is so bad even opiates have been prescribed. He's in agony always. For a large chunk of the time you'd never know how bad he feels. He's often on top form and won't let it win. But it does win and when it does it feels like he has been stolen away and replaced with someone else.

Thanks for your views anyway. I am not going to continue with it anymore. It's over and I'll tell him today. Thank you.

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bloodyhairy · 24/01/2021 11:47

You're doing the right thing, OP. Best of luck Thanks

BrumBoo · 24/01/2021 11:53

@Daisyxchain, didn't you post about this before? The last time he used his depression to be an absolute shit to you, and people told you it wasn't worth it then?

youvegottenminuteslynn · 24/01/2021 11:55

Is this the guy who lives with his dad and has a not very nice mum, who you had to contact to check on him as you didn't hear from him for a day or so?

BlueSussex · 24/01/2021 12:00

OP, I feel for you but the nistake you are making is in thinking that the "Real Him" is the version you had in the beginning, and who you catch glimpses of every now and then (probably when he realises you are close to ending it)

This is topsy turvy. The version he presented at the start requires huge amounts of effort on his part, it's a mask. The "Real Him" is the shitty one revealed to you now.

You don't want him.

ShandlersWig · 24/01/2021 12:03

The fact is, this relationship does not bring out the best in both of you. Perfect reason to end it.
Imagine living like this for the rest of your life. What a waste.
Personally, I'd dump via text for a 3 month 'relationship' but maybe others can advise another way. But I'd keep it short and sweet and move on.

Daisyxchain · 24/01/2021 13:32

@youvegottenminuteslynn

No. His mum's dead. He lives alone . His dad lives further afield too. Definitely not me.

I posted before around new year yes. I decided that I would give him the benefit of the doubt because he hates Christmas.

I understand what you mean about me saying the real him is something else. I guess what I mean is the depression and pain is what controls him. He has so many fantastic qualities and interests. He's got such an interesting background. He's not perfect. He's been through hard times. He's always had long term relationships. He did say his ex of ten years couldn't handle his depression and that was one of the factors in their split. He's done things since splitting with her to almost better himself. He's quite lonely. But we currently can't be in eachothers company much. I think putting my feeling to one side he could do with a women with more time, less baggage and also available to sit, date, go out and about and have lazy days when they can't be bothered. I feel that perhaps he's been a little indulgent thinking he can handle me, my children and a chaotic life in the future. Whilst to a degree I can see having more purpose and a family around him could be a massive mood lifter, I need to feel secure and see we have a strong base to build on. Unfortunately that's not happening. If my kids were older and I had more time then I'd have a little more to give. But right now I haven't got that.

I have not heard from him yet today. I have not sent him a message at all. Which is completely out of character. But I know he is asleep. I'm just tired of it all. I do love him. I care about him alot. I just can't handle his depression. It's a bleak looking future as he's ran out of pain relief options.

If it wasn't for his agonising back and pain causing him to suffer I think he would be completely different. But it is exactly what it is and it's not going to fix.

Thanks for all your messages. I've given it my best

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Royalbloo · 24/01/2021 13:56

I would end it before you get completely and wholly wrapped up in being "perfect" for him and stop looking after yourself - I've been there!

Ileflottante · 24/01/2021 19:10

Bin him off before you get physically involved. It’s easy to build something up when your contact is limited and all conducted remotely. He’s being lazy and making you do all the running with contact.

Demanding you send him loving messages while he sits there watching football? No thanks.

Forget him and move on.

Ntwa · 24/01/2021 22:20

My ex dp behaved like this at points, you wouldn't know why, nor could you sort it if you wanted to. Silent treatment and sulking of he didn't get enough attention.. Yeah its soul destroying. I'm years down the line and pretty cross with myself for putting up with it.. Don't be me or others who have posted

Sunflowergirl1 · 25/01/2021 05:53

@Daisyxchain
"The last seven days I've had him on the phone ranting and stressed. Dismissing my feelings. Getting defensive. But then saying he still loves me. It hasn't been easy some days
. "

This man is an utter manipulative nightmare. You need to not July dump him but completely block him as well

Draineddraineddrained · 25/01/2021 06:09

Oh God I remember your other thread. All this rubbish about "loving each other" when you barely know each other. Everyone then asked why on EARTH you would consider bringing such a difficult, troubled man into your young kids' lives. Still stands. Just the fact he has a chronic pain condition that has previously led to drug abuse, and the fact his mental health is so bad he has previously attempted suicide, and this is still not managed ... Why would you get involved, no matter how "wonderful" he might be in other ways? Your kids don't need it.

Glad you're planning to end it. But fully expect to see you back in 3 months of so having not done so...

CSIblonde · 25/01/2021 06:15

If he was proactively addressing the depression & has seen a Dr, it'd take 3weeks for meds to kick in. Is he? If not, I wouldn't continue as it sounds like a pattern & he's not seeing the ripple effect it has on those around him. If he doesn't react well to your enquiries about the above I'd end it. It's no life being with someone who doesn't try to help themself.

TheOneLeggedJockey · 25/01/2021 06:19

@Draineddraineddrained

Oh God I remember your other thread. All this rubbish about "loving each other" when you barely know each other. Everyone then asked why on EARTH you would consider bringing such a difficult, troubled man into your young kids' lives. Still stands. Just the fact he has a chronic pain condition that has previously led to drug abuse, and the fact his mental health is so bad he has previously attempted suicide, and this is still not managed ... Why would you get involved, no matter how "wonderful" he might be in other ways? Your kids don't need it.

Glad you're planning to end it. But fully expect to see you back in 3 months of so having not done so...

Is this true, OP?
SeahorseoramI · 25/01/2021 06:25

End it now. Do not offer friendship. He is not your friend.

JollyHolly30 · 25/01/2021 14:15

Are you going to end it properly by phone or just continue to 'not text him'?
Hope it isn't too difficult. Be firm, but gentle.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 26/01/2021 13:38

Has he actually spoken to a GP?

Accessed proper therapy? He can do this via GP... IAPT is the psychological therapy service

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