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Icloud54 · 23/01/2021 17:19

My son still attends school, general conversation today about a teacher who is covering his class.
He asked the teacher to help with his shoe lace-she said no because she was 'marking'
She also tells the children she is invisible which means they can't talk to her or ask her questions- basically puts herself in 'invisible' mode throughout the day.
Aibu to be annoyed by this?

Son is 7

OP posts:
mumwon · 23/01/2021 18:45

@LizFlowers Grin yep - i would ask-have you had pe today or have you eaten spaghetti bog by any chance? the dc was always astonished how I knew!

singsingbluesilver · 23/01/2021 18:48

You want her to go so close to your son that she can tie up his shoes. Tell him to tie his own, or buy him slip ons. 2m rule people.

toocold54 · 23/01/2021 18:51

I’m guessing it’s easier for the teacher to say she is marking/invisible then try to explain social distancing and them being in school for childcare reasons and not proper teaching. Which I would find confusing at that age too.

Calmate · 23/01/2021 19:11

OP, I'm annoyed on your behalf and on behalf of your DS, and my daughter's a teacher, in a secondary school.
Does this teacher feel good when her monthly salary appears?
Does she go into "invisible mode" when there is a discrepancy in her wage?

Hankunamatata · 23/01/2021 19:13

Depends if she is supervising the class or not. My sons teachers are in the room but TA are supervising one learning. It's to avoid parents of children at home complaining that they are being taught

Calmate · 23/01/2021 19:13

P.s. Or if a child needs emergency 1st aid?
This teacher's attitude is astonishing.

SquirtleSquad · 23/01/2021 19:17

@Calmate

OP, I'm annoyed on your behalf and on behalf of your DS, and my daughter's a teacher, in a secondary school. Does this teacher feel good when her monthly salary appears? Does she go into "invisible mode" when there is a discrepancy in her wage?
I'd like to go into invisible mode and hide a fish behind your radiator
Peculiartimes · 23/01/2021 19:18

@Calmate
Are you kidding?
So it’s a job of the teacher to tie every 7 years’ old shoes? And you seriously do think that it’s the same with the first aid?

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 23/01/2021 19:29

@Calmate

You don't know the context of 'invisible' mode. How do you know there isn't another adult in the room?

As for first aid, of course a teacher would intervene in an emergency!

ballsdeep · 23/01/2021 19:35

@Calmate

OP, I'm annoyed on your behalf and on behalf of your DS, and my daughter's a teacher, in a secondary school. Does this teacher feel good when her monthly salary appears? Does she go into "invisible mode" when there is a discrepancy in her wage?
Jog on!

I'm just thinking your post was tongue in cheek, because I really don't think anyone could be this ignorant !

I've got a bit if the green eyed monster at the mention of PPA!

sundaysgirls · 23/01/2021 19:39

Your son is not the only one in the class. He needs to learn to do his own shoes up or have velcro shoes if he can't. Back in the day when there weren't velcro shoes (within 20 years, my eldest had laces or buckles from her first walking shoes) they learnt to do laces or buckles out of necessity.

Janus · 23/01/2021 19:41

To me I would think they are trying to keep a social distance so expecting them to get up close to tie a shoe is a bit daft isn’t it??

Norwayreally · 23/01/2021 19:43

You should teach your son to tie them, he’s more than old enough to learn. Velcro shoes until he learns.

Caesargeezer · 23/01/2021 19:45

I can’t tell you how many pairs of shoes I have to tie in a day, in year 4! It’s usually when they’re wearing trainers for PE. And teachers often say ‘I’m not here’ or ‘think of me as invisible’ when they pop into a classroom to get something during their lunch break etc. I’ve never had a complaint about it though!

WeeWillyWanky · 23/01/2021 19:58

Even before Covid, I wouldn't touch a boy's shoelaces simply because they wee on them.

saraclara · 23/01/2021 20:04

When my daughters started school in the mid '90s, uniform was shirt and tie. But (deliberately) teachers didn't do any of the dressing for them after PE.

I loved seeing the kids coming out from school on PE afternoon! It showed how much they were being trained to be independent. Buttons and ties would be all over the place initially (so cute!), but it's amazing how quickly they got their uniform looking (broadly) okay. And they were five.

Of course now most primary schools have polo shirts instead. I wonder what age kids learn to tie ties, now?!

Enidblyton1 · 23/01/2021 20:06

I like the sound of this teacher - I’m going to try ‘invisible mode’ at home.

SquirtleSquad · 23/01/2021 20:07

@WeeWillyWanky

Even before Covid, I wouldn't touch a boy's shoelaces simply because they wee on them.
Grin
hansgrueber · 23/01/2021 20:07

@KindergartenKop

Also, kids often ask questions before engaging their brains. Where's the pencil? It's right in front of them. What are we doing? Read the instructions on the board.
I used to have a laminated notice on the wall 'When all else fails read the instructions'.
CoffeeWithCheese · 23/01/2021 20:10

OP - no tie shoelaces - no need to replace the shoes - they're like elasticated sideways capital Is (with the top and bottom line) and they go into each hole in the shoe. Can get them in flat wide style or thin brogue style laces. Loads of places online sell them but I know Amazon have them on next day delivery cos I bought some last week.

Abraxan · 23/01/2021 20:11

@Icloud54

Thanks for the input, I've concluded IWBU, going to buy some Velcro shoes.
Definitely a good idea.

I have arthritis and there are some days when my hands are painful I simply can't help a child tie their laces. I don't have laces in my own trainers, etc for this reason. I have these: www.hickies.com/

Also I teach infant school and soggy laces are grim. You're never sure why they're soggy, especially when it's dry outside!

SnoozyLou · 23/01/2021 20:12

I never tie little boys' laces. Especially if they're wet but it's not been raining.

Oh no 🤦‍♀️

Itsjusttoohard · 23/01/2021 20:13

I don't think you can send children to school with laces until they can deal with them themselves.

The invisible thing might be a bit clumsy, but it's just her way of asking them to work independently for a while. I don't suppose it happens as much or for as long as DS thinks it does.

UndertheCedartree · 23/01/2021 20:18

A good way to learn laces is to start with tying a dressing gown cord. But until he can velcro shoes are good.

rosesinmygarden · 23/01/2021 20:19

I used to teach reception and I always told the parents at he welcome meeting to only send their children in wearing shoes and clothes (as far as possible with uniform) which they could put on and off by themselves.

Imagine having 30 children who need you to do up their shoes and coats multiple times a day....

The teacher will thank you for getting the Velcro shoes. One less thing for them to do. Wink

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