I feel envy at mate with no clinical vulnerabilities called for covid jab

[priorityconfusion]

She is on the shielding list because of autism and her mental health, but doesn't shield. Called to say her vaccine is next week. We don't live in the same place anymore but I'm in group 6 and won't have my vaccine for a long time. I'm not shielding as I don't need to, but apart from one very stressful trip to an ill family member who needed me, am very cautious and limiting trips out to medical appointments and groceries like most people with my condition because we are over represented in the hospital admissions and deaths.

Logically I'm glad that she is getting vaccinated because the more needles in arms the better and she is out and about a lot on trains and having takeaway coffees and cake outside (within guidelines so that's all good, that's not the point) so hopefully this means she won't get it and transmit it.

But I am a little envious. I want her to be vaccinated but I want it too. And also think somebody like a shop assistant with a clinical vulnerability should be higher up the priority list, to be blunt.

I know I'm being a dick, slap some sense into me here.

Wasted vaccines would be a travesty.

Agree 100% with you on this. Get them into the arms of anybody willing rather than it have to go in the bin.

You mention she is doing stuff and although deney it do sound judgemental. Just reflect on that. Do you actually think she's not deserving?

But it's normal I suppose. This was always going to happen with people feeling jealous irmore deserving.

Presumably you're a lot more saintly than I am and have never felt one single jolt of an unedifying emotion.

Compared to how so many people have behaved, thought and felt during this pandemic, I'm a motherfucking Archangel.

Yes @ProudAuntie76 there must be more to it as I've realised now, whatever it may be. My friend is very truthful, but there is probably something else going on that she doesn't want to share.

I know of at least one case where perfectly healthy young-ish people have been given it.
Yes, so do I. It wasn’t a case of queue jumping. It was a case of people cancelling / unable to attend due to the bad weather and the vaccine going to waste. It would have been absolutely impossible to get the next in line in on the very same day and had a public notice been put out, thousands would have arrived for a handful of jabs available.

@priorityconfusion

It's the queue jumping buggers I'm pissed off with - the ones who have shared the access links to appointments and the unscrupulous buggersxwho have used them

Wow @Chienloup I didn't know that was happening, that's pretty shocking! Who does that?!

Why are we so fucking obsessed with looking at tiny detail? Like really how many people do you think are doing this or even able to?

The government were shitting on about it the other day as a distraction from yet another day of record deaths. Don't swallow the crap that this is where the big issue is.

Many many do not realise that 'clinically vulnerable CV' is NOT the same as 'clinically extremely vulnerable CEV'.
They really should have come up with less confusing terminology but it is all defined on gov.uk.
Unless there are other issues she does not meet the criteria for CEV.

@CoffeeRunner

It may well be purely regional. I work in the Midlands. We are only just inviting the 75 to 79 age group to make an appointment. We are nowhere starting on the younger age groups - not even CEV.

I am aware that some parts of the country are now vaccinating the 18-64 with underlying health issues group.

It varies hugely.

A work colleague of mine got hers today - she's in Group 4 as extremely clinically vulnerable. So in our area we've obviously got down quite far.

My son was put on the shielding list for having a learning disability as were a few others that I know of ( despite it not being a shielding condition).

I agree with the above poster that I have heard those with severe mental issues in soonest councils now getting the vaccine.

I do think it is quite sad that you are envious as she may not be telling you all her health conditions, it’s not like she can go out partying after having the vaccine.

@GrumpyHoonMain

I imagine when they get down to vaccinating healthy people under 50 BAME, carers, and those working with the public will get priority in any vaccine shortage. It’s just how it is.

Carers (asssuming you mean those unpaid main carers of relatives and those that receive carers allowance) are in phase 1 group 6 (16-64 underlying health conditions) the same as clinically vulnerable (not cev).

envy is an ugly emotion.
it is needless
feel happy for her op

Not strictly relevant but some good news. A group of 50,000 vaccinated +60 yr olds in Israel showed a 60% drop in infections between 13-21 days after the first Pfizer dose.

twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1352696743570374656

Either she has other issues and that’s why she’s getting the vaccine or if the reasons she’s giving you for her shielding are true then she’s lying about shielding and possibly getting the vaccine.

@Paapa 🤣🤣🤣🤣

As an aside, does anyone else feel weirdly creeped out by phrases involving 'jabs' and 'arms'...?

'We need to get as many jabs in arms as possible.'
'So far we've got almost 5 million jabs into arms'.
'Cecile got her jab into her arm today'

Jabs isn't used alone any more. Always with the arm there.
Why?!

If you’re that worried OP you could shield no?

@Scarby9

A friend in her 50s, fit and healthy, tennis several times a week, runs etc, has been working at home since March and will be for the foreseeable future, has her first vaccine. The place she works for is a distant part of the NHS.

I am also trying to see this as a good thing in the overall scheme of things, while concerned for my neighbour's 90 year old Dad with COPD who has not had his first yet.

A friend of mine is extremely back-office, non clinical, non patient-facing, no actual access to wards, doctors, nurses or patients, but has had his first vaccine dose.

I'm full time teaching in a crazy busy school. I get you...

But I am a little envious. I want her to be vaccinated but I want it too. And also think somebody like a shop assistant with a clinical vulnerability should be higher up the priority list, to be blunt

Luckily it's nothing to do with you who gets vaccinated first.

Be thankful you're not so health compromised that you have to be offered a vaccine quickly. I'm sure people living with illness aren't jumping for joy due to vaccine after all, they're still living with health problems.

out and about a lot on trains and having takeaway coffees and cake outside (within guidelines so that's all good, that's not the point)

If it's not the point why mention it? Are you hoping to sweeten your sour grapes by incurring a thread full of criticism of your friend?

Well..she's your friend but, you're not hers really.

@Hazelnutlatteplease

"I want a vaccine too, and why is she first?"

Actually this really wouldn't be my first reaction. Because I do try not to be a dick.

You might want to rethink your attitudes, especially to those with greater struggles than yourself.

Quite!

I can't believe the speculation on here about possible illnesses or conditions this person might have, to satisfy the OPs envy for someone getting a vaccine before them.

Is this how low we've stooped as a society?

And it is something to celebrate, the fact that the vaccine is even accessible now, in the UK ever if it's only part 1 of 2.

Some countries won't even get part 1 for the next year or more.

I don't suppose your friend is clinically obese? As people with a BMI above 40 are considered to be clinically vulnerable, and therefore come into the same list as over 70's. Link here.

@Ffsffsffsffsffs
I think we share a friend!
And I am not blaming her at all. If she hadn't attended her appointment that vaccine would not have made it into the arm of my neighbour's dad. I know that.

@Scarby9
that vaccine would not have made it into the arm of my neighbour's dad

Can I ask why you chose to phrase it that way? 'Into the arm of my neighbour's dad' rather than say 'my neighbours dad wouldn't have got it either'.
WHAT'S WITHT THE ARMS?

Be thankful you're not so health compromised that you have to be offered a vaccine quickly. I'm sure people living with illness aren't jumping for joy due to vaccine after all, they're still living with health problems.

I stayed in my flat for 12 weeks at the start of the pandemic on advice of my doctors. Specialists in my condition thought people with my condition would be in group 4 but we're in group 6.

That's fine but it's certainly not been easy. So yeah, shoot me for being envious when I've had to watch my mate having a far more normal life than I have had and now getting her vaccine first.

I know there is probably more to it as discussing it here has made me realise, but it's really not helpful to try to shame someone with chronic illness for having a shit time.

We have all had a shit time with this pandemic, it takes a toll on us and good for you if you are so strong and tough and perfect you've never had an unpleasant thought enter your head.

@Paapa
I don't think I have ever used the phrase before! I must have picked it up from reading this thread. Sorry!