to think fireworks should be banned...

[wannaBe]

... apart from organized, licenced displays.

Still a week t go before november 5th and already it's like world war 3 round here. Ds doesn't like the bangs, my cats are too scared to go out and generally they're just a mennace.

Maybe if people had one night of it I might feel differently but really this setting off fireworks for weeks before and after the event is just rediculous.

And maybe if they were banned we wouldn't have the mamings and injuries and firework related crimes either...

Wish I knew the answer to that one Lapin.

It is amazing how many times people are found to be guilty of 'crimes', and apparently escape punishment.

Still this is fireworks thread, and it's a Cracker

groan! you deserve a Rocket for that

I know, but I can't hold a Candle to you

Never lit fireworks as a kid because they were illegal where I grew up. That means they have been illegal for the unlicensed for at least 40 years in California.

Mundane... me? hahahahahaaaa.... Or namby pamby??? It's almost refreshing to get cast with those labels. Don't in fact object to any of the other things NoName2day listed... although broken car wing mirrors due to footie games in the street should be paid up for by players or their parents.

Almost nobody (and certainly not thread OP) is talking about banning fireworks altogether, just regulating them more than simply an age threshold on purchase. A simple license to use them, like you have to get for a charity raffle, would sort out most of the illegal, unsafe and unsociable use.

When I was younger some twats attached a firework to a cat . They has also been a few instances of thugs directing them at people. I definnetly agree

All weekend we've had little darlings expressing themselves by throwing rockets & fireworks at people going into the shops, putting the really big ones in skips & wheelie bins causing HUGE explosions terrifying my dog and waking DS.

I fail to see how suggesting tighter regulation is turning us into the nanny state.

If there were only organized displays then people could go to those, and in fact it would cost them a damn sight less than the fireworks they would have to buy to hold their own displays.

And there would be none of this throwing fireworks at people/letting them off randomly in the street/the park/putting them through letter boxes/in bins/tying them to unsuspecting animals. Surely no-one believes that the way fireworks are used in this way is acceptable? And it's certainly not a minority doing this - they're everywhere.

There is no reason why fireworks need to be on sale for 4 weeks before Bonfire night, none.

In answer to OP, I absolutley think that fireworks should be banned from public sale, they're dangerous and anti-social and environmentally damaging. (gets off soapbox and slinks back to obscurity)

The defining qualites of mundanes are their desperate conformity, the passivity that renders them incapable of actually doing anything off their own bats or making any kind of entertainment of their own: they consume entertainment passively and are always in favour of tighter regulation 'if you;ve got nothing to hide you';ve got nothing to fear' being a typical mundane statement.

When dd1 & dd2 were small a bunch of teenage twunts threw a banger at their pushchair. Thankfully I'd seen them messing around before I left the shop so I put toddler dd1 into the buggy, sat baby dd2 (about 6 months old) on her knee, strapped them in & put the raincover over them. The banger bounced off the front of the raincover - it could have landed in dd2's lap. Thinking about what might have happened if I'd just stepped out with the buggy uncovered still makes me feel sick 13 years on

I'd be happy to see the sale of fireworks to the general public banned completely. If you want to see them go to an organised display - it would be a damned sight cheaper too.

And btw I'd rather be a mundane than be madamez

The conformist, passive approach is to just let things continue as they are. Oh people have been blowing themselves up with fireworks for ages just let them get on with it.

The active, nonconformist approach is to perceive that there is a problem of unecessary injury and find workable solutions.

I find it depressing my local community bonfire can t have fireworks because the insurance premium to set them off would be too high. So we just sort of stand around a bonfire and drink mulled wine, which is nice but a bit, well, uneventful.

Also you go to a big display (which are zzzz in my opinion after five mins) and you aren t allowed to give your kids sparklers. They re banned, because they get hot. Well, yes, but this needn t be a problem if we re all careful.

So I agree with Madamez, a private bonfire at home, with a few fireworks, baked spuds, lighting blue touchpaper, making your own entertainment, (which would end if all the Mundanes had fireworks for private use banned completely)is far more fun.

It is completely irrelevant what you do to prohibit the sale anyway. There will always be people who will sell drugs, alcohol and fireworks to children - such is our society. It's the same as the smacking argument, you can completely ban it but it won't stop the real abusers as they couldn't give a flying catherine wheel what the law says!

Even if you banned the sale of them until the 3rd November I guarantee you that the kids round here would still find them and be letting them off!

I agree with nonametoday - you can ban everything with zero effect as the only people who take any notice of laws are the ones that don't break them iYSWIM

Are all these references to "Mundanes" some new wider cultural thing I haven't caught onto previously, or just a latest trendy slur on MN?
Come on now, expand on this Mundane theme, what other things do we do and not do? I do so need someone to tell me who I am, on the basis of a single argument .

IIRC they don't use carseats...

Is it possible to be only 25% mundane I wonder. Because I calculate by Madamez' definition that's what I am ....

I believe that fireworks should be licensed and regulated in the same was as firearms.

don't mind them on the night itself or in the run up eg at the weekend - but it sounds like a warzone outside again and my baby wants to go to bed