to think the constant showing of womens boobs & bums on the music channels is VERY annoying?

[BarbieGirl]

I have spent my Sunday afternoon doing my ironing (boring I know) and watching the music channels on sky as there is not much on, and nearly every music video shows women or a woman showing her boobs and bum and the camerman zooming right in for a close up.

Am I being a prude about this?. My 5 yo DD keeps asking me why these women are showing their boobs all the time .

No you are not being a prude. I think they are TOTALLY out of order and contribute massively to the pre-sexualisation of children.

I think I will have to stop my DD watching the music channels - some of it is downright disgusting.

Agree. It's nothing short of soft porn.

That's why we watch VH1 Classic. The onlt offensive thing on that is the hairstyles.

Yes it is disgusting, and it all perpetuates the women as sex object/submissive idea. These silly dancers in these videos, have they no self respect?

Young girls at my daughters school try and imitate the way they dance, which is basically pole dancing without the pole.

I try and tell my dd how degrading it all is.

I hate these channels and all this. There was a huge thread on this a few months ago.
It's only certain types of music that do this, I watch channels that don't feature this crap.

However this sort of thing is aimed at teenagers who are really susceptible to this, and I find it really really offensive, seeing some girl shaking her arse at me.

No you are not being a prude at all

YANBU, I hate this and the increasing sexualisation in society generally, like adverts etc.

When he was five or six my son used to go to "drama" classes after school. It wasn't until he'd been going for a few weeks that I learnt they really consisted of dancing a lot to the Cheeky Girls "Touch my Bum" song, the way the Cheeky Girls did it. I was just grateful then that he's a boy because it is inevitable that little girls will take on this message so much more.

And the other day in half term one of the malls in my city had some local radio station putting on a dance show which consisted of girls who looked about 13 to 15 dancing provocatively. Not semi-naked but still caressing themselves etc to a huge crowd of blokes and lads. Yak.

What happened to femininsm . Or is it just acceptable now?

It's kind of weird isn't it? I asked my eldest daughter, just out of interest, recently why she was constantly staring into various women's crotches on tv and whether she was a lesbian but she said no, she just likes the music.

I think this is "feminism" now, post-90s Loaded laddism. All power to women and their sexuality ya know, cos of course they choose to use it.

I really don't think anyone is forcing the girls in music vids to do what they do, we are not talking about snuff movies here. I'd prefer a bit of variety myself but there are always radios.

Sorry, I missed the bit where someone said they were being forced to do it.

I think that feminism has now become 'making money from flaunting your body'. essentially it has been dis-empowering, as 1 woman may make money off it, but other women may be treated differently because of it.

I missed that too!

Perhaps I inferred from the emoticon at the end of your post? It's still a valid point though.

argh I dropped this from my last post: it

Ah, ok, I see now, sorry Vacua. The sceptical smiley was just referring to the feminism bit.

Bunnyhunny, yes it seems to have gone full circle.

the mostly annoying bit is that it's just not very interesting to watch is it, unless you like that sort of thing

but isn't the fact that they are doing it willingly sad? Like models that are size 0, making money but ultimately setting such a bad example that children think being skinny is something to aim for.
Girls see women shaking ass/boobs at men and think this is desirable behaviour, whereas it has really set feminism back. Ok, if you;ve got it flaunt it etc etc, but it DOES objectify women as sex objects, which is NOT a good role model for young girls.

I think there are different role models our children can also be exposed to, let's not underestimate their own intelligence

agree that there are female different role models, but I see kids each year at the school disco dancing like the women off of those videos. And they are 6 - 9 years old.
Sorry, this does REALLY wind me up!!

I agree with Bunny, I don't see why women have to be objectified like this whether they individually choose to be or not and regardless of any positive images that may also exist. I think it's harmful to women and men. And I'm not talking about rape, just the insidious way it affects our views of one another and our relationships.

yeah I agree it's not very nice, my 8 year old is already far too keen on the same sort of thing but does it really have any lasting undesirable consequences? I just limit her exposure to it on the whole.

Shoulda also said the exposure of children to such sexualisation is really quite disturbing.

I was listening to a radio programme last night that came up with the interesting idea that gansta rap (often enough the music with the ass/tits videos) is also disempowering blacks, because it is showing them in a negative light as treating women bad, shooting others etc etc.
And that it's racist in itself.
Kind of what the women making money from shaking their butts at the camera are doing for other women. iyswim.

I agree it's not appropriate viewing for younger children, but mid- late-teens on it's up to them really. Not my cup of tea at all.

Some research would say yes, some no I guess. I can't help thinking it must affect the way men and women see each other and how they feel their roles are defined even on a subconscious level. If these kinds of images did not hold some power of persuasion the advertising industry would be non-existent for starters.