To think that if the Grimwades had really wanted to ‘go green’, they could perhaps have had fewer children?

[Rainallnight]

Have just seen this ‘Going Green with the Grimwades’ programme on Channel 5. They have six kids are are telling other people about the importance of recycling and reducing waste.

I usually think of family size as a personal matter, but this is all a bit too ironic for me.

AIBU?

@Misstwiggd
I saw an advert on ch5 thismorning for a new series of 'Go Green With the Grimwades'. Did a groan (remembering the absolute hypocrisy of that show) and thought 'and I bet they've got another baby on the way as well'.
Jumped onto thier Instagram to find an announcement for baby no. 7! You couldn't make it up!!

Total hypocrites

It depends on whether you think of children as people in their own right, or appendages of their parent. At a societal level, some people have lots of children and some have none. If you are an environmental dictator and have picked an overall birth-rate for the country, it would be most efficient for a small number of people to have large numbers of children and others none, rather than spread the children out evenly so every family has 2 or less. There are economies from lots of children sharing a household.

Sorry, didn't realise it was a ZOMBIE thread.

I cannot stand the grimwades! They are so hypocritical!! They did an episode on ‘hand me downs’ yet every episodes they all seem to be in new clothes. Watched an episode which showed several TVs in their home aswell as the kid on a console! Then next minute the mums walking out with hair extensions and big new nails. How these kind of shoes get on tv I don’t know!!

I have a colleague like this. She has 5 and a diesel van, and her family of 7 eats meat and dairy 'cos the kids like it. She's always going on about what other people need to be doing to be more environmentally-conscious, as it's the world her children will be inheriting donchaknow. I'm childless (infertile), vegetarian, don't drive and don't fly.

When she suggested that me being vegetarian wasn't enough, and that I should look into going vegan, I had to walk away so as not to say something that'd land me in HR.

Woman near me has 4, yet makes a point of telling me about her recycling, not eating much meat etc.
There are still people that believe these measures make more difference than being responsible and having a smaller family….

Ooh Im glad its not just me! I think the same every time I see this programme.

I always try to keep in mind the mote and beam though I must admit most of the wealthy IRL who lecture me about sustainability have a remarkable lack of self-awareness and think I must have no memory of their large families, multiple homes, hundreds of long-haul flights and conspicuous consumption, all of which they justify because.or get angry if even gently called out.

Did anyone see the wool one this morning? I hate them

Perfect time to recycle this thread when we've got Jeff effing Bezos telling people how much he cares about the planet now he's... Found a soul?... Realised how damaging Amazon has been?... Seen and been horrified by the massive inequalities encouraged by the tax-avoiding super-rich?... No... Been into space. Ffs. Great use of precious resources. Hypocritical twat.
Hypocrisy really is rife. I do think that if you are going to claim to be green and put yourself in the public domain on that issue, you should at least make some concession to living in a green way.

@AgentJohnson

Their children will be paying your pension!

yawn!! we have TOO MANY PEOPLE ALREADY! No one should be having that many children

Also, on that basis, your children are going to have to have as many children themselves, to pay the pensions of the huge number of people that exist to pay MY pension...

@AudacityBaby

I have a colleague like this. She has 5 and a diesel van, and her family of 7 eats meat and dairy 'cos the kids like it. She's always going on about what other people need to be doing to be more environmentally-conscious, as it's the world her children will be inheriting donchaknow. I'm childless (infertile), vegetarian, don't drive and don't fly.

When she suggested that me being vegetarian wasn't enough, and that I should look into going vegan, I had to walk away so as not to say something that'd land me in HR.

PM me her address and I'll go and twat her for you. Seriously, it would be a pleasure.

@JesusInTheCabbageVan This really made me laugh. Thank you.

I could actually make a fair bit of money offering that as a service on MN. I wonder if they would let me advertise.

@AgentJohnson

Their children will be paying your pension!

I doubt that very much. They're being home schooled by two people who seem to have very little educational experience. The father Tima also has a massive Range Rover - they really are the poster people for hypocrisy. It's all about the angle to get a bit of fame and money

Some people just hate.

But you could apply that logic to any decision which benefits you or your family at the expense of society more broadly.

I haven't watched this programme and I'm not especially exercised about large families, but the argument that you should crack on and do whatever you like because of the "joy" it brings you isn't really a sustainable argument to every challenge to your behaviour.

I watched a programme about Greta Thurnberg and thought similar when I saw her collection of cuddly toys. I know it's trivial and she has done a lot to raise awareness, but she might have had the sense to hide her own materialism from the cameras. Those toys will probably have come from factories in China guzzling energy and they serve no useful purpose.

Are they really being raised with that mentality? Or is it just yet another family cashing in on the kids and hanging it on ‘green issues’ to try to stay relevant? It’s the latter.

I’ve seen that show. Driving all the kids to a garden centre, buying tonnes of bedding plants and planting them in an ‘old’ (it was brand new and clearly purchased for the segment) Wellington boot, is not ‘going green’.

Maybe she was given them as presents and the idea of discarding them was worse than keeping them and loving them?

@JesusInTheCabbageVan thank you for a laugh on this wet and manky morning. I'll hold your coat

I’m one of 6, catholic parents in the 60’s😔
There’s nothing good as a dc knowing the lack of food, the arguments between parents and being poor compared to your school friends is due to too many dc and not enough money. Even with money parents cannot give 6 dc the attention they need.

In this age, with the knowledge we have on climate change and the contraception available there is no reason for a couple to have more than 2 dc.
It’s self indulgent.

I had a friend with 5 children who is an environmentalist.
The thing that pisses me off is she spends a lot of time talking about people giving up their cars. However she drives fucking hundreds of miles around the country for her childrens activities. she once drove nearly 400 miles one way to go to a course and then back the next day, something she could have done locally.
I think most people are just hypocrites when you come down to it.

Announcement today that the global population has just hit 8 billion. When I was born, it was 3 billion.