aibu to have this view of men? I should like to be!

[TheFormerChild]

I am old, borderline ancient.
In the 1950s, 1960s, on our black and white tv there were many films about 'Cowboys and Indians'. It was a non-PC time!
There would be a bar scene - tables and tables of men doing whatever they're doing - betting, drinking.
(There would be some wise-cracking prostitutes).
A man would stand up (believing himself to have been cheated), He would swing a punch - and Every Single Man in that saloon would stand up and punch someone. Every man there was aggressive, only waiting for someone to kick someone around so that they could join in.
Their aggression was innate, just under the surface.
No wonder I'm wary of men.

@Pteppic

That's pretty accurate. I went to the pub last year and two blokes were playing cards in the corner. They started arguing, the magic self-playing piano got turned off and I was thrown through a window. I woke up in the water trough and someone had stolen my horse.

As a bloke myself, there are a certain percentage of men (and much smaller of women) who especially when they drunk get aggressive. Can't remember wherei read it, but alcohol has been involved in the same % of persecuted murders fir like 400 years, so it would seem this is to a certain extent innate, hence why I take a bit if a Hobbesian view of humans. However if a fight breaks out in a pub I'm in, its its normally associated of those getting involved and others watching.

Prosecuted*

So have you never actually met any men OP?

Stereotyping half of humanity in the 2020s on the basis of cliched depictions in films made in the middle of the last century of what life was like in a foreign country in the previous century? Really?

Just when I thought this place couldn’t get any more utterly batshit... 🤷🏻‍♀️

@jessym

Stereotyping half of humanity in the 2020s on the basis of cliched depictions in films made in the middle of the last century of what life was like in a foreign country in the previous century? Really?

Just when I thought this place couldn’t get any more utterly batshit... 🤷🏻‍♀️

Bizarre...just because it's 2021, doesn't mean we aren't still just mammals... we've been conditioned to see violence is wrong and to control ourselves because the society we live in sees it as rightly unacceptable.... but our innate behaviours haven't suddenly disappeared, they are just masked.

Bit of an extreme view, OP. I saw some similar tv programmes but knew they were actors

All the men are card-playing, whiskey drinking, fighting thugs and all the woman wise cracking prostitutes. That's life, sure is.

Did you not have any positive male role models growing up? What about as an adult.?

It’s unusual to have formed your opinion of men from the tv and to them carry that for decades. So is there a back story?

I grew up with that crap, we’ve all seen John Wayne movies, but we knew it wasn’t real.

Yes, @formerbabe, mid-20thc westerns are an excellent guide to ‘mammalian’ behaviour. Just like Hammer horror or romcoms.

Hahaha I remember these films. I'm 44 but they'd play them during tumbleweed afternoon tv slots and they were so random he fights 😆

Sorry, not much to add but thanks for the laugh 👍🏻

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@Cluas

Yes, *@formerbabe*, mid-20thc westerns are an excellent guide to ‘mammalian’ behaviour. Just like Hammer horror or romcoms.

I wasn't especially interested in the film genre or even referring to it. However, I do believe men have an innate aggression that they are conditioned to suppress. This generally works but not always hence why the male prison population is so much greater than the female.

Op, you write like we won’t recognise these movies. They are still on today. Christ I’m fifty two and I remember growing up with them

Your view of men would be formed by those around you. Throughout your life. Not the tv.

I mean I’m sure you don’t also think that women are either prostitutes or house wives as was portrayed in those movies.

If you’re wary of men, and still are, in what, your seventies? Then that’s very sad, but I suspect little to do with the telly.

What’s caused you to write this post? Are you ok?

@MindGrapes

Have you watched any TV since then?

@MindGrapes 😂😂😂😂

Jesus OP, if this is how you view all men because of a scene from a John Wayne movie 50 years ago your doing all males a favour by staying single..

Get yourself a cat, a female one...

Don't be silly ~ of course I've known some lovely men.
But this is what I was exposed to, when I was 11, 12, 13. Men banging the shit out of each other.
Please, watch these films.

If you'd changed channels, you'd have seen a man walk in, take off his hat and say, 'Honey, I'm home.'
I'd still be wary of Brylcreem on the back of the sofa.

It's wise to recognise that some men can be dangerous, but it's unreasonable to think that every man is eager for an excuse to bash someone's head in or inflict other injury.

People (male and female) are subject to all sorts of impulses, good and ill, but most of us manage to keep them in check and behave well enough to stay out of trouble.

I've never personally known any men who got into brawls, though I'm sure the type does exist. However, the kind of man who looks for an excuse to fight is probably fairly easy to spot.

I watched that clip, OP, all 4 minutes 32 seconds of it , waiting for the kind of fight you were talking about.

There wasn't one. I guess you're having a laugh