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Toxic ex

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lisa19902020 · 10/01/2021 17:24

Hello everyone, I desperately need advice because I am at the end of my tether. In a nutshell, my relationship broke down 4 years ago which is shortly after DD was born. I bought a house and have been providing ever since for both of my children. DD's dad has anger issues and uses class B drugs. On several occasions has strangled me in front of both my children, DD was luckily too little to remember but this was on the police reports. Broke my mobile and took my boiler heating controller for 3 days to show me he is in charge, leaving me and the kids without heating and hot water. I literally had to call him and beg for him to return it. Police recorded this but did nothing. Since then, DD's father has been on a mission to destroy my life.
Every year, I travel during the summer holiday to see my parents abroad with my children, he's always been aware and even last year he agreed to me taking DD. When I got there, I told him we landed ok and everything was alright and a few days later I updated him as well. However, I wasn't answering phone EVERY time he was calling and got angry and threatened me with arrest upon my return from holiday for abducting DD. He's come to my place of work on a few occasions, making a scene, has called work multiple times as well. I have blocked him in every way possible ages ago but I can still get sent some of his emails.
Recently, DD's nursery called to say he's sent them a half an hour recording of me being upset and shouting in the presence of DD. A recording he made secretly from me (without consent and knowledge) in my own house after I stupidly let him in once to see his child for a little and after refusing to leave, I got upset and he recorded me. Very manipulative and I am sure he will use this in court against me. He has been advised on multiple occasions not to contact me and hence, has been ringing the nursery for updates about DD. Made a few appointments to come see DD, out of 10, turned up only once for her birthday.
Has been turning up in the park when I'm out with the kids, although he doesn't have my whereabouts information as he lives out of town but he has "recruited" a few of my neighbours to feed him information and I am livid about this. At the same time, I cannot prove their contact to the police with evidence. He also waited for me after work on a few occasions. I pick up DD from nursery and walk home. On a few occasions, he was waiting for me half-way back to the house and jumped out of his car and took forcefully my child out of her pushchair and started walking away from me. I called the police, they just told him to go and that was it.
Recently, he started re-appearing again. Called work, sent me emails and then knocking on my door at home, stood outside for 6 hours in his vehicle and at the end, I had to call the police. I am very frustrated because they told me this is not harassment because he is asking about his child. What about myself and my other child who gets caught up in this? How can this not be harassment? Provided this "man" has hurt me in the past - physically and emotionally, why should I be talking to him and be subjected to this.. It feels like he gets away with everything!
Dealing with the courts is a financially and emotionally draining experience and they will give him some type of custody I would imagine. Going that way is my last resort. Also, 80% of my evidence was on my old phone that he smashed in the presence of DD. How do I prove anything? I wish the police was more proactive. When I gave my recent statement, they told me they will call him in for a voluntary interview, a day later the officer calls and tells me he's spoken to DD's dad on the phone and told him "not to do this again". We have been there before, he keeps quiet for a bit and then starts the same all over again. Some people even told me it's not worth applying for a court order because they cannot grant anything to change the already existing status quo (DD lives with me, always has, why should this be disrupted).
Even now, I had to apply for a primary school place all by myself, I am sure he isn't even aware of the deadlines but because he is on the birth certificate, one day he will twist things and say he was not involved in the decision-making process. What if I am perceived in a bad light? Then again, why should I tell him when he is not interested and doesn't even know it's "application time"....
My questions are I suppose, can't the police do more? How can this possibly not be harassment (just because he uses DD as an excuse to contact me)? He might be plotting to have me done for child abduction again this summer, should I be scared? I don't want to give him too much details, he is controlling and uses things against me. Deep down, he knows I am a very loving mother and I and my parents care about DD wholeheartedly so he knows child is ok during her holiday and any other time. Also, I don't want to talk to him ever again as he makes my stomach turn, he has hurt me in the past, why should I be forced to communicate with him because we have a child together on paper. Hence, I had to decide about school choice single-handedly.
Yes, sadly, I put him on the birthday certificate. He has never ever provided for DD, never had a job, doesn't have his own home (lives with mother and sister in another town). Currently, he is in £3,000 child maintenance arrears, never paid a penny, they told me he has not opened door to bailiffs and are not considering taking away driving licence. He told them unless he sees DD, he won't be paying... He was allowed to see her at nursery prior to Covid, he hardly ever turned up.
Any advice will be greatly appreciated! Thank you.

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omg35 · 10/01/2021 17:39

I'm sorry. He sounds like my DD's dad. Is he an explicit threat to your DD tho, independently of you? I understand he has behaved badly towards you in front of her but has he put her at risk alone through his behaviour? Because honestly if he hasn't and it does go to court he will get some degree of contact because the courts don't care how you've been treated, only about your daughters rights. He's clearly a shit dad in terms of not paying for her etc (which will look bad in court) but if he hasn't physically or emotionally harmed her he will her contact

lisa19902020 · 10/01/2021 17:51

@omg35

I'm sorry. He sounds like my DD's dad. Is he an explicit threat to your DD tho, independently of you? I understand he has behaved badly towards you in front of her but has he put her at risk alone through his behaviour? Because honestly if he hasn't and it does go to court he will get some degree of contact because the courts don't care how you've been treated, only about your daughters rights. He's clearly a shit dad in terms of not paying for her etc (which will look bad in court) but if he hasn't physically or emotionally harmed her he will her contact
Thank you for the reply. I have read similar situations where they allow pretty much anyone contact which really discourages me to go through the courts. Physically has not harmed the children, about the emotional impact it can be perceived differently. My other child has seen him strangle me and called the police so he has left an impact on another child which doesn't make him that fit as a parent. Once he threw me so hard on the bed, I nearly broke my back, so the bed broke and DD was sitting on it so the bed fell apart while DD on it. That and the few times he forgot to close the safety gates on top of the stairs is as close as he will ever get to physically harming DD but there was no direct harm, thank God...
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omg35 · 10/01/2021 18:14

Tbh, awful as this is to consider, your position would be much stronger if he had physically harmed your DD. I'd get legal advice about whether his behaviour towards you is enough to trigger a non molestation order- you can file for one of those yourself and it will cost a couple of hundred pounds, but realistically it doesn't sound like he's going away I'm afraid. It might be worth considering if allowing contact would make him settle down a bit

Xmasgrump · 10/01/2021 18:35

Given your family are abroad, could you move to a new city? A fresh start without telling him where you’ve gone?

lisa19902020 · 10/01/2021 19:00

@Xmasgrump

Given your family are abroad, could you move to a new city? A fresh start without telling him where you’ve gone?
Sadly, I have a mortgage on the house and this will complicate things a lot and is financially consuming too...
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Santaiscovidfree · 10/01/2021 19:05

You are allowed to holiday. Presumably if police asked you there would be return tickets. Ask your phone network if they can retrieve your lost messages. Tell them why you need them.
Find yourself a burly friend to accompany you to school and back. Get a body cam... It won't be money wasted.

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