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Compulsory assertiveness training at school. for girls

38 replies

CallistoSol · 08/01/2021 11:55

I've just read yet another post by a woman allowing herself to be treated like dirt in her own home. I am constantly astounded and dismayed by how lacking in basic assertiveness skills women seems to be. Surely its time for this to be included in the curriculum as parents are clearly failing to give girls confidence and teach clear boundaries?

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Member869894 · 08/01/2021 18:25

I think it's less about assertiveness and more about a lack of self esteem. I used to work with victims.of domestic abuse.and I would say say a lack of self esteem was a common factor.amongst the woman and men I worked with

MustardMitt · 08/01/2021 18:30

@1940s assertiveness I read more as - don’t apologise all the time sort of stuff. Yes boys should be taught not to be such arseholes but I heartily agree with this.

Girls! Learn to be your own best friend and champion - it’s taken me nearly 40 years!

Toocold · 08/01/2021 18:32

I agree with 1940’s response.

Ohalrightthen · 08/01/2021 18:37

Teachers have enough to do without actually raising the children themselves. If you want your daughter to be assertive, teach her yourself.

Also, FUCK the onus being on girls to stop abuse.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 08/01/2021 18:39

Agree with lots thats been said. Boys and men need to respect boundaries, as do quite a lot of women.

I an british but live in Denmark and have to say that IME Danes are better at asserting boundaries. But I think language helps. There arent as many words in danish so not as many ways to say the same thing.

The point above about manners verses boundaries is incredibly perceptive.

CorianderBee · 08/01/2021 18:48

I actually think this is a great idea, but likely the parents of shy boys would kick up a fuss.

CorianderBee · 08/01/2021 18:49

I also think that yoga should be taught in PE (for both sexes).

JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 08/01/2021 18:51

Teacher here. I totally agree. We haven't come as far WRT women's rights as people think we have.

No doubt it would kick off massively with the parents of boys though 🙄

Ohalrightthen · 08/01/2021 19:23

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

Teacher here. I totally agree. We haven't come as far WRT women's rights as people think we have.

No doubt it would kick off massively with the parents of boys though 🙄

Can i ask - what would you remove from the curriculum to make space for it, and why would you prioritise teaching girls how to avoid being victims rather than teaching boys how to avoid being aggressors?
MustardMitt · 08/01/2021 20:47

I am a parent of boys and would welcome it.

I also did some stuff at a local boys school recently (not the school my kids go to) and in talking to a teacher she told me that every half term they have a day where different speakers come in and talk to the boys. They do a period with the army, with local outreach people, with the stop racism people - and with a group that talks about misogyny. She told me it’s very important for them to do this being a school full of boys.

I think so long as parents are assured that something is going on alongside it for the boys most will be ok with it. I could be being naive!

MustardMitt · 08/01/2021 20:52

Also this would fit nicely with PSHE sessions I think. I don’t know what the requirement is in schools for that though!

edwinbear · 08/01/2021 21:10

I went to an all girls school in the 90’s, it was par for the course that girls/women were generally, fucking brilliant and could do whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted, with whoever they wanted Grin So I chose the male dominated world of investment banking, where I thrived.

DD is being brought up with the same mind set and her brother has seen first hand, that women are his equal and are to be respected.

sbhydrogen · 08/01/2021 21:13

Being assertive isn't only reserved for relationships. It's used in the workplace, too. I think it's a good idea to teach it.

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