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DrDoormat · 07/01/2021 06:38

Hello all. I have a DP who has gradually made it so that it's difficult for me to express any real choice or negative feelings. It's really hard to explain. If you have read the thread on here by the woman whose partner is being a dick about their home office, it's very very similar to that: mine isnt as much of a dick in that with that office situation, it wouldnt arise because he would see how unreasonable that is and he would have offered to share from the get go, but it's similar in that any arguments or different opinions, he would just shut me down.

He is very docile and easy going in everyday life so sometimes I think I must just be either difficult or absolute massive doormat

There are small things where over the years I have just let stuff happen because if I try to fight back he will either
A) Gently reason and I'm too much of a doormat to stand firm, or
B) If it gets heated he will just blow up and shout and then storm off to stay with a friend which basically means I cant start any kind of deep unpleasant conversation because it feels like I dont have a voice. Do you know what I mean?

Everything is done to his preference. Even where we live, but also just small stupid things but it should give you an idea.

Example 1: we both smoke and before I met him I would always smoke inside. Before you judge me: I know it's not great but it's what I've always done, making sure to air afterwards etc.
When we moved in he decided we wouldnt smoke inside. Fair enough. But what bothered me is that on NYE I had made us a big meal, we had champagne etc, and I said to him we should smoke inside that evening as a "treat". He refused and I found myself basically begging. I was actually shocked at myself. Again I know there are loads of anti smokers on here and I get it, but I'm talking about one night when both of us smoke. I just didnt think I should be pleading with him over this when I had always done what I wanted up until then.

Example 2: He does all the cleaning, I do all the cooking. I earn more than him but we share finances. He only works 20 hours a week because he "works to live not lives to work" (his words). Okay, but he always forces us to go to Aldi or Lidl. Dont get me wrong, those are both great for basics. But I dont know about you, but the ones near me, they dont usually have what you always need. So for example last week one recipe I wanted to make needed chorizo. There was none in Aldi so we had to go to this organic shop nearby. That suits me better anyway because I prefer to spend more money on higher welfare meat and just eat less of it (he is the opposite).
So first of all I was a bit pissed off that as usual we were messing around going to different shops because he is too tight for us to just go to Sainsburys or whatever. But then when we get to the organic shop, the chorizo there was very expensive. I would have just bought it, but he was making such a big deal out of how outrageous the price was that I just let it go and reorganised the recipe.

Those are the small things where he would do the reasoning that wears me down thing. Sometimes I just think - god you are such a killjoy. Why make me fight to smoke indoors on NYE? Why make me fight to buy some fucking chorizo? I dont know though maybe I'm being unreasonable there?

The bigger blow ups and shutting down happen when I Express unhappiness with bigger things in our relationship. I can start really calmly and rationally and he will just fly off the handle shouting and being like "yeah it's all my fucking fault isnt it! I'm such a terrible person! You know what, fuck this!" and storm away.

So I end up just not really expressing things I would like to change.

This is all really surprising because before him I was pretty "feisty" and "defiant". I'm not sure what has happened along the way but I know feel quite worn down and subdued and I dont like it Sad

I really dont know how I've become like this but it saddens me.

In the summer I have a new job and I will be Taking Back Control 😂 I cant wait. The new job is really exciting and will involve lots of changes. However in the lead up to that and telling him I would like to start "practising" finding my voice again. But how do I do that? I feel like I need to start small. But how?

I think even if it ends (which it feels like it might) for the sake of future relationships I would like to get back my voice in subtle ways here so that I can kind of "retrain" myself to do that, so that later down the line with other men, I dont find myself in the same situation.

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DrDoormat · 07/01/2021 06:38

Shit I'm sorry that is so long! Congrats if you survived it 😂

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CodenameVillanelle · 07/01/2021 06:41

I'm not sure about your examples as I don't see him being controlling in the smoking thing but if you aren't allowed to buy food where you want that's pretty crap. If you feel you can't express yourself for fear of consequences then this relationship is dead, so I can't advise you how to change it. You'd be better off ending it and working on yourself as a single person.

Letshavesometea · 07/01/2021 06:48

I'm not sure about your examples either

Smoking- YABU
Chorizo- YANBU

If you can't communicate anymore with each other then I'd say it might be time to call it a day

Porridgeoat · 07/01/2021 06:50

The smoking I understand as it increases the amount of nicotine inhaled and therefore risk. I’m with him with that.

How do you express things? if he feels blamed and got out? Is there a different way to communicate? Where it’s more about problem solving?

It might be worth asking him how he would like to talk through problems so that you both say how you feel?

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 07/01/2021 06:52

You're clearly, and not unreasonably, unhappy.
Why are you supporting this idiot? Leave, let him work to live by himself, rather than paying for him to do this and control you and wear you down.
Don't wait until the summer - make the changes now, so that you can focus on getting your voice back now, rather than starting your new role unhappy and ground down by this controlling man who appears to have no respect for you?

RickiTarr · 07/01/2021 06:53

Can’t read all that but if it’s true, FGS LTB.

If it’s a wind up, it’s too long for anyone to bother reading, TBH.

Twickerhun · 07/01/2021 06:54

I don’t think your relationship is working if you have to beg and if you can’t agree on finances or food shopping. If I were him I wouldn’t want you to smoke inside at all either or buy crazy expensive food at a specialist shop when you’ve otherwise been careful over money.. but your communication sounds so wrong

MeanMrMustardSeed · 07/01/2021 07:00

You should def leave. Partners should make you feel ‘more you’ not less you.

Brinksmanship · 07/01/2021 07:04

I would say you’re wrong about the smoking inside.

Also re the chorizo my Lidl does it. And it’s fine.

But he’s a cock lodging twat for only working 20 hours a week. He needs to be working full time. Unless he’s a mutually agreed SAHP for children.

Eviebeans · 07/01/2021 07:05

New year, new job, new you, new...

justlonelystars · 07/01/2021 07:07

Hmm, yeah the smoking thing I’m on his side. It wouldn’t have been much more effort for you to go outside to smoke and smoking indoors is nasty.
The chorizo, yes it seems silly of him but I don’t know your budget so if it’s very tight it could have been reasonable.
However, the way he reacts to you trying to have a conversation is a massive red flag whether I agree with the smoking/chorizo thing or not. He sounds like a petulant child who can’t bear to be criticised. At the end of the day life is too short to be with someone you’re unhappy with.

PatsyJStone · 07/01/2021 07:09

If you earn more than him maybe you should have some sat on spending some of your money on what you want, and that could be expensive chorizo or just going to Sainsburys. If you have to be careful with money because he doesn’t earn enough to shop at Sainsbury’s, and he’s dictating the Aldi shop, then he needs to understand you have different viewpoints. If he won't work more hours then you need to look long term at your relationship as a whole and if you are compatible moving forward. Do you aspire to have the same things? Holidays, drive, own a car, buy a house? Children are not cheap, what are his thoughts there? This is how he may be for life so are you happy to stay with this outlook? Does it suit you long term?

FortunesFave · 07/01/2021 07:13

I smoke too but would NEVER do it indoors. It's rank. It makes the house stink...everything sucks up the odour.

The food...meh...he's kind of right.

WestSideBoom · 07/01/2021 07:17

I don't know if he's controlling but you are'nt happy so that's what matters. It doesn't sound like you want to be in the relationship.

I know that covid has made things extra difficult but it sounds like you need more going on in your lives if you are discussing where to buy ingredients for a meal.

AlwaysCheddar · 07/01/2021 07:17

You’re not compatible. Just go your separate ways. He won’t change.

CecilyP · 07/01/2021 07:18

Of your 2 examples, in the first one you were wrong but in your second he was definitely in the wrong and that behaviour around shopping would drive me nuts! No idea how you ever let it get that far.

However:
I can start really calmly and rationally and he will just fly off the handle shouting and being like "yeah it's all my fucking fault isnt it! I'm such a terrible person! You know what, fuck this!" and storm away.

Is totally unacceptable. It means he gets away with it every time. You are perfectly justified in finishing it.

Gliblet · 07/01/2021 07:28

Literally the only way to deal with/correct the behaviour of someone who is using aggression or passive refusal to step up to control your behaviour is to remain assertive and not let them either bully or ignore you. There's no magic bullet once someone has learned a lazy, easy way of getting what they want.

Do you think he's actually worth the hard work? What does he do that brings so much joy and happiness to your life that you'd be willing to basically commit to being The Assertive One/the Grown Up for the foreseeable?

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