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To think this prison story sounds fishy?

44 replies

Changechangychange · 05/01/2021 21:27

The DBro of an acquaintance has been in prison, on remand, for the past two years (I think Covid caused some delays to the case being heard). I have just heard from her that he has been found not guilty, and will be being released in March.

Does that sound odd to anyone else? If you are found not guilty, do they really keep you banged up for another two months? Don’t they have to free you there and then?

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Lemmeout · 05/01/2021 22:03

He has probably been found guilty and is being released in March due to time already spent in prison on remand.
Arrested and remanded in custody pending trial
22 months later he goes to trial
2 year sentence is given
Minus 22 months on remand
Released 2 months later.
Just my guess.

friskybivalves · 05/01/2021 22:11

Blimey the prisons are full enough without keeping in anyone found NG for another two months...

GabsAlot · 05/01/2021 22:13

nah sorry shes lieing probably embarrased but you get found not guilty you go home from court

mellicauli · 05/01/2021 22:15

Surely the outcome of a case is a matter of public record. Just google the court and you can see.

StopSquirtingBleachOnCaneToads · 05/01/2021 22:22

Google it.

He has been found guilty of something, otherwise his story doesn't make any sense.

MisfitRightIn · 05/01/2021 22:49

@ParkheadParadise

My dd's killer walked from the court, he was on remand for 10mths before.
I am so sorry for the loss of your DD. Life is horribly unfair.
MathsFiend · 05/01/2021 22:50

@ParkheadParadise

My dd's killer walked from the court, he was on remand for 10mths before.
Really sorry to hear that, @ParkheadParadise. That must have been awful.
PlanDeRaccordement · 05/01/2021 22:52

I agree if he were found not guilty at the initial trial, he would have been released immediately. So he could not have been two years on remand. But if he was found guilty, and then acquitted on appeal (acquitted meaning the guilty verdict was overturned and replaced with not guilty), then I think it’s possible to have served several years of a sentence before your appeal is heard and you are acquitted.

There are many cases of convicted prisoners serving years in prison until their guilty verdict is overturned. They just acquitted a British man Scott Richardson in Australia who was wrongly convicted of rape and he’d spent about two years in.

LoveMyKidsAndCats · 05/01/2021 22:58

He was found guilty OP. He has done his time and is coming out.

PlanDeRaccordement · 05/01/2021 23:03

This has reminded me too of the Netflix show about the worlds worst prisons. It stars Raphael Rowe who spent twelve years in U.K. prisons after being wrongly convicted of murder. So it’s possible to be “not guilty” and spend years in prison. The story might have been simply muddled up.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 05/01/2021 23:05

My dd's killer walked from the court, he was on remand for 10mths before

i am so sorry to read that, ParkheadParadise. Not only the death of your daughter but that her killer walked free. That must have opened your wounds all over again. Flowers Sending you sympathy, and anger at the system.

Nomorepies · 05/01/2021 23:14

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ParkheadParadise · 05/01/2021 23:24

Thanks, everyone
He walked free and my brother was threatened with contempt of court. He lost the plot and started shouting after the verdict was announced.
I'm happy to say the evil bastard is now dead, sadly no one murdered him he died of a drug overdose 4 years after taking my dd's life.

nevernotstruggling · 05/01/2021 23:34

There wasn't much delay due to covid wrt criminal justice anyway. Hearings have carried right on.
People get remanded because they are a danger to society pre trial.

If you are sentenced to 2 years in prison for crime a you could be released after 1 year on license (living in the community under strict conditions which usually relate to the original crime such as if it was dv then license conditions usually state they must declare romantic relationships). However if you breach the license (harassing an ex partner for example) you could be recalled to prison to finish the original 2 year sentence AND during that time be tried for crime b AND be found not guilty but still need to serve the remainder of the sentence for crime a.

oakleaffy · 05/01/2021 23:36

@ParkheadParadise

My dd's killer walked from the court, he was on remand for 10mths before.
Oh my goodness, So sorry to hear that. Appalling. 😨
Awwlookatmybabyspider · 05/01/2021 23:44

The lengthy remand part I can believe. However let me get this straight. He was allegedly found not guilty of the crime and told he’d still have to spend 2 months in prison. No that didn’t happen they can’t send someone to prison after a not guilty verdict.

Nandocushion · 05/01/2021 23:55

@Rigamorph

(unless he is in the USA when they keep people locked up even if subsequently found innocent, so the legal team gets to save face....Hmm)
Where do you get this information from? (Also - no such thing as being "found innocent" in the US.)
PlanDeRaccordement · 06/01/2021 00:18

One scenario could be. He was convicted, found guilty. Then appealed on a basis that would cause a retrial, so while the conviction of guilty was overturned it could easily take two months for the retrial to be scheduled in March, but it would only be an expected outcome of not guilty at this point from the legal team, not a definite found not guilty yet.

ShinyGreenElephant · 06/01/2021 01:51

I know someone who was on remand for almost 18m, was a huge drugs conspiracy case with about 20 of them, various charges. He was caught with 12 kilos of heroin on him and they had masses of other evidence too.

If he was found not guilty he would be released immediately though so that part is definitely bullshit, he must have been found guilty of something even if its a lesser charge

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