Are schools providing out of hours cover for key workers?

[nanagerry]

Just wondering whether breakfast clubs and after-school provision will be offered for children of key workers during this lock down as 9-3 isn't going to be enough for most

On top of looking after vulnerable/key worker children, planning and delivering work for those at home, doing welfare checks for those at home and looking after their own children, you want teachers to do more?!

In normal times we have a breakfast club and after school run by school staff. But we can't do it under these conditions without mixing bubbles

Standard after school and breakfast club provision is still on for those in school. I'm amazed at the arsey responses

@kursaalflyer

Don't most hospitals have schoolrooms for long term school-aged patients? Could these be utilised for wraparound? Private companies that go into schools can't run at a loss for the few key worker children that need it.

Yes of course, what a brilliant idea, because inpatient children with fragile immune systems ,healing surgical wounds, ports and catheters need to have their wonky immune systems boosted by an influx of germ ridden children twice a day.

And of course the children will be able to walk to and from their nearest hospital without the need of escorts or transport. Win,win.

Our primary school is doing breakfast club so open to key worker and vulnerable children from 8 but they have stressed that this is only for those who absolutely need to drop children off an hour early, they're not running any after school clubs which normally only ran for 45 mins anyway and not many children stayed for these normally.

A normal before or after school club still wouldn't cater for a nurse on a 7am to 6pm shift, as a pp mentioned. They would need to be open, what, 6.30 am till 6.30 pm?
We opened till 6 last time for the small number of keyworker dc. It seems a lot more people are wanting to send their dc in this time and that all impacts on staffing availability.
(I know the word "uppity" isn't only used in a racist phrase but isn't that what most people hear in their head when it is used? Hate it)

MeowMeowLikeACow

that is an uppity response.

Whammyyammy

I thought schools were there to provide an education, not child care outside of school hours. Perhaps teachers could be forced to work 24 hour shifts, I'm sure they don't have or deserve their own life or children.

This!!

What about keyworkers who work the night shift?
You expect the school to provide an "education" for that?
School = Not Childcare

Blimey @viques, only a suggestion. You know you can point out the flaws without blowing a gasket.

Not at DD's school. They are offering neither but the school I work in are providing both - same LA and 2 miles down the road. So you won't get a definite or accurate answer here for your individual school.

Breakfast and after school club is still running at DS's school but it's not run by the teachers.

Primary school DD goes to send out a letter saying breakfast and after school club open with slightly adjusted hours. So they're usually open from 7am until 6.30pm but they're only doing 7.30am to 5.30pm and only for keyworker children not the SN or Vulnerable even if they'd normally attend which I think is fair enough.

(I know the word "uppity" isn't only used in a racist phrase but isn't that what most people hear in their head when it is used? Hate it)

I had no idea, had to Google what you meant. I had always associated it with the Mr Men books. I apologise for any offence.

However, my original point still stands. The OP asked a perfectly valid question and given that many schools are providing a wraparound service then it appears that OP was being very reasonable!

Genuine question, how do NHS and other shift staff manage usually? Because all the extended schools wraparound care in primaries in our local area is only offered 7.45-5.45pm in normal times. 6pm pickup, maybe, at the absolute latest but nothing opens before 7.45 (and many only open at 8). So on that basis I’m presuming shift staff wouldn’t ever be able to use school wraparound care anyway.

With regard to the current situation schools are doing the best they can but it’s not going to be perfect unfortunately. Our school are offering wraparound care as far as can be managed but we won’t be able to please everyone.

Yes, continuing here (although not provided by teachers)

Nope. Breakfast club and afterschool club are run by a private company here.
They aren’t running currently

It’s a pain. I start work at 7.50am no wriggle room at all
School starts at 8.45 now.

No idea how I’m going to manage

Thank you for understanding that my question was purely a question with no ulterior motive of teacher bashing. During the previous lock down the local school provided excellent wrap around care for which we are very grateful, but when it was announced that this time it would be 9-3 only, I was surprised and disappointed and merely wanted to know whether this was a national decision or an individual school decision. However the good news is that they are now offering to take children of key workers from 7.30 am (for a charge naturally) and are currently in discussion re the after school provision. So, our problem could hopefully be resolved.

Genuine question, how do NHS and other shift staff manage usually? Because all the extended schools wraparound care in primaries in our local area is only offered 7.45-5.45pm in normal times

Here it was run by a private company, 7am-6:30pm. So I’d drop off at 7am and DH picked up at 6:30pm just before I got home.

Most wraparound care is provided by private companies on school premises

I have never worked in a school where this was the case. It’s always been run by TAs.

To answer the question, my school isn’t running any wraparound care as the TAs that previously ran it, are CEW. We have very few TAs as it is-most were made redundant a few years back.

School = Not Childcare

The type of wraparound care I was referring to was a private company providing before and after school childcare on school premises. Nothing to do with teaching staff, the company have their own employees. And yes, parents pay an hourly rate for it just like any paid childcare.