Parents vs Teachers

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Does anyone find it sad that these lockdowns are causing tensions between parents and teachers?

I can see both sides to arguments, but surely the anger should be directed at the government.

I understand parents arguments that they are not teachers and a lot of them don't have time to homeschool their children.

I also understand the argument that schools need to be made safer for coronavirus.

I hate the argument of: Schools are not babysitters.
No, schools are not a babysitting service but I don't think any parent is actually saying that - i think in modern times most parents work so of course parents will be stressed about childcare etc.
And parents aren't teachers. So it is unreasonable to expect parents to work full-time whilst homeschooling children aswell.

I just think we should all see both sides and blame the government for schools still not being as safe as they need to be.

The measures to make schools safe ER were so wet and weak it was an absolute insult.. No masks in classes?.
No blended learning...

No public information video on covid, to play to students to standardised information, many students do not understand it at all.

Some parents complained when an English lesson was partially taken up to explain the virus, the parent said school should be a safe place to escape everything virus related.

In rl I don't know a single teacher who wants to work among huge numbers of dc nor do I know a single parent who want to send children in.

People need to appeal to employers, everyone needs to ask for humanity and assistance be it flexible working.

I believe employers do have to look at requests for flexible working and come up with good reasons not too..

Push back at the employers, just like teachers have

The issue here is that the government have positioned parents against teachers. It's cynical and it's deliberate because it takes the pressure off them.

Lockdown would be a good time for vulnerable children to get the tutoring money suggested last summer.

A very good point. Where is the promised funding, where are the promised laptops? We never get straight answers to any of these questions.

I believe employers do have to look at requests for flexible working and come up with good reasons not too..

They do, but they have up to three months to make a decision, and they can simply cite business reasons to decline. It's a shame we can't name and shame unsupportive employers, but anyone that dared to is likely to find themselves managed out.

Lockdown isn't causing conflict in my opinion.

Governmental incompetence is causing it because they don't want to make unpopular choices and have spent all pandemic trying to pin their failings on others. They did it with care home workers at the start. They tried to gaslight teenagers by blaming them for seeing friends out of school after the teens had been in scho. Teachers have also had their fair share of shit.

Then you've got loud media voices who hate unions and love Boris who like stirring the pot.

Then you've got the astroturf group Us4Them whipping up conflict.

Then you've got the goady ones on here who love any excuse to claim teachers hate their jobs and want to drink gin.

Most parents are totally reasonable people who are justifiably concerned by the shitshow that is the government and DfE's handling of it. Unfortunately some people like to exploit the fears and concerns of reasonable people for their own agendas.

I disagree on naming and shaming employers it depends on the size of the company.
. To be honest, there should be a name and shame thread and maybe mn need to get solicitors on who specialises in this area of employment rights because no one knows what they are.

I don’t usually like to comment on these threads but I am genuinely worried about how this will impact on my children - years 8 and 12. The younger had no online ‘teaching’ at all during the last lockdown, he was directed to print off/ complete worksheets which were never assessed. He is dreading this happening again. The older one- well, exams were cancelled, so of course there needed to be teacher assessment but there was absolutely no additional work, despite his application to the school 6th form. I think the issue is the lack of consistency from school to school / LEA to LEA, which meant some top notch provision and some schools barely delivering anything. I am a also a key worker and I know it has been hard to adapt but if surely there should be a minimum standard of provision??

I think I did an ok job first time around with home learning, so much so my child seems to be put on an iPad daily or told to watch Tv with a few other children whilst the teacher teaches the children who had a development gap. I’m angry at my sons teacher but I can understand how hard it must be for her.

Last lockdown we had 5 twinkl worksheets, if parents aren’t very tech savvy or haven’t got the correct equipment it’s hard to homeschool. I don’t know what the best outcome is but I really do think all children should repeat a year of schooling.

@ScarletMascara there is:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/actions-for-schools-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak/guidance-for-full-opening-schools#res

Teachers are not empowered to make any decisions about how schools are run or whether they are open so there is literally no criticism of them at all that is valid.

Parents vs teachers has been going on a lot longer than Covid

I do not want schools closed but I don't blame teachers. It's the government's fault we are in this state for not making schools safer.

Anyone who uses the phrase "school is not childcare" when parents express worries about working while caring for children can fuck off though.

Anyone who uses the phrase "school is not childcare" when parents express worries about working while caring for children can fuck off though
I agree as long as it is about specific pandemic worries and preferably the parent in question isn't having a goady rant at 'teachers' when what they actually mean is 'government decision on opening and operating schools'.

In normal times where there's people claiming inset days are days off for teachers/funny how teachers fine us but take random days off for training (inset is on top of 190 day term time)/ why can't I pick up or drop off at school early/late because I don't need wraparound care for 20 minutes? ( they do as they need wraparound care), having a rant that school have messed up childcare because a teacher is no longer running an entirely voluntary extra-curricular club and the club was being used in place of actual childcare etc, then I think 'schools aren't childcare' is fair.