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Whattheactual20201 · 2021-01-04T14:50:53+00:00

I am for school closures and we are in London so school is closed we just got an email to say DC2 school are having a zoom registration every morning at 10 am where all children must attend for a morning debris tray in and half an hour lesson dressed etc. Rules are Quiet room, adult present, but no one else. You must make sure your child is attendance otherwise they will be marked as absent. Would be impossible for us to do So will have to accept her being marked as absent on the days we can’t do it. Can this go down as official absence like a usual one would ?

tttigress · 04/01/2021 16:13

Why does an adult have to be in the room? Especially if the kid is older? I would find it quite distracting.

HappyNewYear2021 · 04/01/2021 16:14

According to some on here the other day children at 11 or so should be able to be left home alone all day...... she didn't listen to anyone that suggested otherwise.... because of course her little angel was fine to be left alone all day long ... even she would struggle with the OP's school requirements....

ineedaholidaynow · 04/01/2021 16:16

Adult in the room will be consent and welfare check probably

angelhorror · 04/01/2021 16:27

Why is it impossible?

marshmallowfluffy · 04/01/2021 16:31

You won't be the only person with that problem. Lots of children will have siblings and I'd say it was more reasonable but parents to keep them quiet in another room rather than allow them to distract the child in the lessons. Only 50% of jobs can be wfh

My kids are secondary and gave to log into form for registration but I don't have to be there.

OhDearMuriel · 04/01/2021 16:31

YABU
Where there's a will there's a way.

Pigeonpair1 · 04/01/2021 16:32

I work in a school. It just means an adult hovering nearby. You don't actually need to be sat next to them.

Lucieintheskye · 04/01/2021 16:32

My sister is in a similar situation with similar rules. She has 4 DC and her husband is wfh, they have no other childcare. Her DH now has to supervise 4 45 minute long zoom calls at the same time, but they were told after asking that they had to be in seperate rooms. Kids are 4,5, 8 and 9. They're expected to have a device per child (phones not allowed, only tablets/PCs) and a room per child. They've been emailing the head who says the can't change the rules for one family or they'd have to change them for everyone. It's ridiculous and unattainable.

MzHz · 04/01/2021 16:35

Can’t the dc log on at 10am on a phone if need be? You can email the school and tell them that it’s that way or no other way because you’re and juggling kids and wfh

(Awesomely entertaining mental image)

IntermittentParps · 04/01/2021 16:36

Where there's a will there's a way.
That's helpful isn't it

OlympicProcrastinator · 04/01/2021 16:37

YABU
Where there's a will there's a way

Our one and only lap top has just died. I can’t get anyone to even answer the phone to find out how to use the guarantee let alone know where to take it (bought online, living in tier 4).

I’d like to know how to ‘will’ a laptop for my secondary age kids to work on. (Typing off my phone. I can’t work from home either as I work in transport).

longdarkwinter · 04/01/2021 16:38

I feel very sorry for UK schools they are getting no support from the government and criticism from parents no matter what they try and do.

If our dc choose the virtual option for school they need to wear uniform and spend the day on teams from 8:30am.

A separate room for each dc isn't possible as house is open plan but headphones go along way to address this, also the mute button.

Our school days are all recorded for safeguarding purposes.
We did have to buy IPads and headphones for dc at the start all this though.

MzHz · 04/01/2021 16:38

@Lucieintheskye

My sister is in a similar situation with similar rules. She has 4 DC and her husband is wfh, they have no other childcare. Her DH now has to supervise 4 45 minute long zoom calls at the same time, but they were told after asking that they had to be in seperate rooms. Kids are 4,5, 8 and 9. They're expected to have a device per child (phones not allowed, only tablets/PCs) and a room per child. They've been emailing the head who says the can't change the rules for one family or they'd have to change them for everyone. It's ridiculous and unattainable.

Well I dare say the school needs to send over some iPads then!

What utter ridiculous nonsense! Do they not actually hear themselves?

Uhhuhoyaye · 04/01/2021 16:38

@Lucieintheskye

My sister is in a similar situation with similar rules. She has 4 DC and her husband is wfh, they have no other childcare. Her DH now has to supervise 4 45 minute long zoom calls at the same time, but they were told after asking that they had to be in seperate rooms. Kids are 4,5, 8 and 9. They're expected to have a device per child (phones not allowed, only tablets/PCs) and a room per child. They've been emailing the head who says the can't change the rules for one family or they'd have to change them for everyone. It's ridiculous and unattainable.

There do seem to be far more ridiculous Heads than there used to be.

LindaEllen · 04/01/2021 16:42

I think it's a good idea to make sure the kids are getting up and dressed, and ready to learn. My stepson should have been doing college work all day and he's been lay in bed.

However, if it's genuinely impossible for you to do this, the school will almost certainly accommodate you if you give them a call and explain why.

But it will have to be a genuine reason. We all have to make an extra effort to make things work at the moment.

Donkeeey · 04/01/2021 16:43

@Joanmoans

My DC can't participate in online classes because we only have one open plan room. They are not allowed to be in bedrooms. I need to get stud walls put in but the room is tiny enough as it is.

My daughter has no choice but to be in her bedroom, "allowed" or not! We live in a small 2 bed flat. DH is working from the open plan kitchen / living room. It's not that they CAN'T it's just it's not preferred, just tilt the camera to a blank-ish wall or remove highly personal items from view. They aren't going to stop your son attending online classes, they don't know whether the wall the can see is in his room or the living room and I'm pretty sure teachers would rather have him in class in his bedroom than not learning! We haven't informed the school of her location...

Cheeseandwin5 · 04/01/2021 16:43

To be fair to the school, they will have had a few ideas and assumed this is the best of a bad bunch. If you and other parents feel this system doesnt work then you will have to voice your concerns and hopefully they will amended it. I think current school routines are are all work in processes and with more information they can change and update.
Saying that if you are one of few who cant manage, the school may find it difficult to change things to keep you happy if it means a lot of others suffer. Maybe you need to think of alternatives to help.

SpiderinaWingMirror · 04/01/2021 16:44

I would tell them to jog on.
We havr dh working from the spare room. Dd1 working from the lounge. Dd3 has been told that she has to work from a room other than a bedroom
As they are required to have both video and Mic off I fail to see how they are going to do it.

DavidDuchovnysRedPants · 04/01/2021 16:45

@Joanmoans

My DC can't participate in online classes because we only have one open plan room. They are not allowed to be in bedrooms. I need to get stud walls put in but the room is tiny enough as it is.

Same as us. We just all use headphones.

longdarkwinter · 04/01/2021 16:46

The school won't know what room your dc are in, take a photo of your living room and use it as a zoom background.

Pics · 04/01/2021 16:46

My daughters school has explained that the reason they want all children to register for lessons, and otherwise be marked absent, is so that they can find out which children are not able to access the learning. Only by doing this can they find out which children are not able to access the lessons and follow up and support them through talking to parents/carers and students.
Not sure about having an adult in the room - but it makes sense to take a register to find out who is actually able to take part.

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Whattheactual20201 · 04/01/2021 16:47

I have emailed back to say she won’t be participating.
She has been out of school the entire time with not so much as a welfare check.
So not going to stretch our selves now that the rest of the class is off
( it never effected her attendance as there is a Code for why she wasn’t attending )

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MzHz · 04/01/2021 16:49

@longdarkwinter

The school won't know what room your dc are in, take a photo of your living room and use it as a zoom background.

Genius!!

Cocomarine · 04/01/2021 16:52

Plenty of people will have a reason why can’t do this.
Plenty of those will actually be good reasons.
Not all.

Your daughter’s autism: good reason.
Oh and I have a dog: ridiculous reason.

Stop blaming schools for doing SOMETHING. They are trying to set an expectation that children attend something, every day.

I don’t know the extent of her additional needs, but if she will get NOTHING from zoom, I’m sure that contacting the school and explaining that will help. What they’re trying to do is set the expectation for those who can’t be arsed (parents, not kids) Thad actually - school have a requirement.

Again, I don’t know her particular needs, or if her 13yo brother has to be present for an online class at the same time - but if not, can he supervise her?

Just because some families can’t manage this, doesn’t mean that it isn’t a fair process - as long as the school listens to the parents who genuinely can’t. You did lose me rather at using the dog as one of your excuses.

NotGenerationAlpha · 04/01/2021 16:53

Adult present just means you are around in the house. Not you sitting in front of the screen.