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Property developments being thrown up

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SakiSiam · 30/12/2020 22:12

www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/57279749?search_identifier=b2c4429fc7a275a352d2a8441756a13d
These bungalows (plus apartments) are being built on the site of a demolished bungalow and my next door neighbour's sold-off garden. We also have over 140 properties being built on our other side - on a previous school/playing field site.
Looking on Zoopla the new builds on the neighbour's land look great, and state they have their own 'private garden'. In reality, when I stand in my garden, with the bungalows 2/3 yards from my boundary, I'm thinking, 'prefer my garden to yours'. [Oh, until everybody started building around us.]

However, in this area we have a problem with access to health/dental/social care, etc. Developers are allowed to build properties in very small areas. How are utilities, roads, NHS, social care, schools, supposed to cope with this influx unless private/public money is being spent on these things?

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PetertheWalrus · 30/12/2020 22:38

Is the first picture the bungalow? I thought it was a bus shelter.

StopMakingATitOfUrselfNPissOff · 30/12/2020 22:55

Developers make contributions to the local council to ‘offset’ the properties they are building. Usually schools, healthcare and travel but it can be much wider ranging. These contributions can run into the 10s of millions.

ZaraCarmichaelshighheels · 30/12/2020 23:13

@PetertheWalrus

Is the first picture the bungalow? I thought it was a bus shelter.
Funny! I thought it looked like a community centre! In all seriousness OP you must be frustrated, I can understand why but unfortunately it’s the way things are going, if you have green space round you, pound to a penny at some point it will become a housing development, I have a view over beautiful countryside, when we bought the house 20 years ago it’s was protected but planning laws have changed, it’s a free for all nowadays and my lovely view will be built on at some point, I’m just going to plant some tall trees....
sirfredfredgeorge · 30/12/2020 23:13

So you're not a NIMBY, you're just concerned about pressure on social services... conveniently ignoring the fact that houses don't create any new people, just more affordable places for them to live.

If you're concerned about a shortage of social services, complain to your MP, not the under-housed.

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 30/12/2020 23:15

Remember that local authorities have a quota of houses they must build within their five year plan. A developer locally part funded a primary school and a relief road.

TwelveDogsOfChristmas · 30/12/2020 23:16

That is a god awful looking building.

mrsbyers · 30/12/2020 23:19

The service provision is reviewed as part of planning

Rae36 · 30/12/2020 23:25

Is that the actual house in the corner of the car park? It looks like my doctor's surgery

lidoshuffle · 30/12/2020 23:26

I thought it looked like a bungalow in the middle of a car park. But then I thought it's several bungalows in a car park; what's going on with the fences, are they subdividing the building into several units?

Hathertonhariden · 30/12/2020 23:36

The CGI looks like they've built public toilets not a bungalow

sst1234 · 30/12/2020 23:57

So you’re a nimby.

Chloemol · 31/12/2020 00:08

Developers pay via S106 agreements or CIK monies to local infrastructure

We warned more, much more building is on its way as the Gov is changing its method on how it calculates who gets what housing, so mor3 is to be built in the North as a lot of the South is already concrete

Chloemol · 31/12/2020 00:09

CIL not cik

Ellmau · 31/12/2020 00:26

I thought it was a bus shelter.

I was thinking public loo (in a car park).

SakiSiam · 31/12/2020 01:42

Some of these answers have really cheered me up, when feeling depressed about moving into tier 3, eg @Elimau- 'I was thinking a public loo...'
Those accusing me of being a NIMBY = well, it's not literally my backyard, it's just on both sides of me. I still have a massive garden; I just wish someone would buy it off me.

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StopMakingATitOfUrselfNPissOff · 31/12/2020 08:03

So you’re a....BIMBY?

Cafcesque · 31/12/2020 08:17

Yanbu
I live near a site where at least 10k houses and flats are being built. They are building new schools but the health centre hasnt happened as no doctors wanted it. So our local surgery has to accommodate all new patients. Our local hospital is shut to emergencies due to covid bug (this happens every winter anyway) but will be under even more pressure. The local roads are constantly gridlocked before any of these developments started. So they are widening A roads and building more roads. All good for the environment especially as we are already in one of the most air polluted parts of the country. I worry for the kids.
New houses do bring new people to the area. A lot of people have moved from inner London areas to this development. It's a bit worrying to see what's happening. As it all seems very short sighted.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 31/12/2020 08:24

The floorplan (one main door/one set of patio doors) doesn't match the image of the outside (two main doors/one set of patio doors).

I wouldn't want a door opening from my bedroom onto a carpark.

TaraRhu · 31/12/2020 08:38

Yabu we desperately need housing. Councils get contributions to cover healthcare and schools (I am a planner/ architect). So there is no real reason for services to suffer - unless the authority isn't handling things properly. People often catastrophise over the impact of new homes- but it's generally negligible by any measurable standards. The truth is people just generally want to protect their property value by making sure supply is less than demand.

Someone was allowed to build your house with a massive big garden so why can't the next generation have the same chance?

However, I do concede that quality is an issue in those images you showed. those houses terrible and cheap. House builders sadly provide the McDonald's of housing in a lot of cases. They have no character and ass nothing to the area. There is a desperate need to improve standards in this respect.

TaraRhu · 31/12/2020 08:47

@Cafcesque why is it so bad that 'new people' come to your area? They are moving from London because they have been priced out and there's nothing they can afford there. The country is completely imbalanced and jobs and opportunities are focused near the capital. That may bring pressure but you are very lucky to have access to quality employment. Try living in Middlesbrough or other northern towns.

We have a desperate need for homes. The only way houses wi ever become affordable is if we built enough of them. All towns and cities have a duty to build for the good of future generations.

Cafcesque · 31/12/2020 09:37

@TaraRhu dont have a problem with new people. I think one of the previous posters said that it wasnt new people taking up housing. I wouldn't want to live in London myself and have slowly edged out myself. Most of these people will probably still work in londin (as do i) as there is no employment locally (even prior to covid)

There is some local politics though as there appears to be some attempt to rebrand the town I live in to the Newtown. Some of the longer standing residents are fed up with being consumed by the new town.
The quality of the new housing is questionable too. They're built below the water table in quarries that were once filled with water so I'd be concerned about buying them. Others have been built with electricity pylons running through the estate. The overall quality of life isnt what they're promised in the sales brochures and the prices are £££ compared to the other local housing.

Cripesitsthegasman19 · 31/12/2020 10:02

None of the new builds round here have front gardens. Is this a standard thing now? They charge enough for these badly designed rabbit hutches.

Zippy3 · 31/12/2020 18:05

Our council have approved planning for 88 flats, in a cul-de-sac, at the end of a single track road of 30 houses. Nimby here.

Caspah · 31/12/2020 19:44

'Someone was allowed to build your house with a massive big garden so why can't the next generation have the same chance? ' See what you're saying, and would agree, but that's not the case. Our home was originally a coachhouse (when combined with next door's), so the size of the home and the land relates to that. The oldest parts of our house are over 150 years old.

unmarkedbythat · 31/12/2020 19:59

A quarter of a million for that house is just mad. This country is fucking bonkers.

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