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Sometimes I just hate some men.

54 replies

Taikoo · 30/12/2020 14:58

www.reuters.com/article/instant-article/idUSKBN29418L

Appalling.
God forbid a woman would be allowed to find peace, wellness and success in her own life.

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yetanothernamitynamechange · 31/12/2020 18:52

@MissBaskinIfYoureNasty Agree, I feel worried about my own son, and his father is NOT a good role model. He has a sweet, kind heart, but he comes out with stuff sometimes that I know he either heard direct from his father, the TV or possibly friends. I always challenge it and try to model and describe good behaviour but it feels so difficult when almost everything else is telling him the opposite.

yetanothernamitynamechange · 31/12/2020 18:53

If genetic testing made it possible to identify the percentage of the population that commited over 90% of violent crimes surely we could do something about it? Oh wait....

Sheleg · 31/12/2020 18:54

@Lysistratathereindeer

Some men? I'm another one who hates most men most of the time. I look at little DD and wonder what kind of world have I brought her into where I'm already thinking about what kind of self-defence classes would be best for her to take.
Same. It breaks my heart to think of the world I've brought my daughter into.
YouShouldLeave · 01/01/2021 13:41

YANBU

RiojaRose · 01/01/2021 14:49

Awful.
I hate almost all men because they’re not doing enough to put an end to this shit. It’s not enough for a man to claim he isn’t a violent individual: this isn’t about individual violence. If a man isn’t part of the solution then he’s part of the problem in my opinion.

Nousernameforme · 02/01/2021 02:58

It's a fucking shit show and it's made worse because we can't even talk about it without someone interrupting just to say not all men.
And because we cant tall about it we can't call violent men out on it. The NAMALT are a huge part of the problem.

That poor poor woman she worked so hard and now her life is gone because some man wanted it gone.

Tinkerbell456 · 02/01/2021 04:54

What a horrific crime. Poor woman. It looked as though she loved her new life in Italy too. I think it’s a pity though to tar all men with the same brush. The vast majority of men would never be capable of doing anything approaching this terrible act. You’d have to have a screw loose surely?

CrotchBurn · 02/01/2021 05:13

Yeah "not all men", but let's get real, there are lots of men out there doing bad things and they have to be SOMEONES partner, brother, father, son
I think the vast majority of men are capable of abusing their position as men given the exact right circumstances - even that warm, loving, generous family fan or your sensitive and affable brother.

Womens inferior role is subtly yet deeply ingrained

Tinkerbell456 · 02/01/2021 05:17

You are right Crotchburn. It is true that men are more prone to be violent than women. That’s a generalisation is all I’m saying. This sort of abhorrent act is obviously gendered violence in a way that I don’t ever remember hearing about a woman committing. Oops, Lorena Bobbit.

user1471565182 · 02/01/2021 06:43

Its the way this world is going. This woman created a dream life from nothing and some small minded evil piece of shit felt they had the encouragment to destroy that.

Taikoo · 02/01/2021 06:59

Someone upthread said that there is an unspoken war going on. I agree.

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Oilyoilyoilgob · 02/01/2021 07:30

The picture of her bring nuzzled by her goat 😞 I’m really tired of reading about killings and destruction, the cruelty of it.
People can’t be left in peace. Raped and murdered by someone who decided he had the power to do it, and just did it.
I agree of course not all men are like this. However I’d love to see rallies by men calling out violence against women.

I wonder what will happen to her goats now? ☹️

BloggersBlog · 02/01/2021 07:45

That is appalling, what a senseless and unspeakable loss of an amazing lady

I had the same feeling yesterday of 'I hate men' when I was reading about the increase in men offering places to rent in exchange for sex. Nowhere near this scale, I know that.
But the whole culture that they can use their 'power' over desperate women is sick and shows the society we are in.

Lysistratathereindeer · 02/01/2021 09:50

I am truly fed up of hearing (and being expected to say) NAMALT. Of course not all men rape and kill, but far too many do and others sit by in silence when seeing misogynistic attitudes. According to UK government statistics, every year there are over 400,000 female victims of some form of sexual offence: 85,000 of these are rapes. These are just women over 16, so not including the child victims. Not only is that a heck of a lot of victims, that's a heck of a lot of perpetrators - all those men have to be someone's father, son, brother, husband. And the rest of the male population, what are they doing to call out violence against women? Against the cultural attitude that we're not worth as much? Nothing.

yetanothernamitynamechange · 04/01/2021 11:12

@Lysistratathereindeer

I am truly fed up of hearing (and being expected to say) NAMALT. Of course not all men rape and kill, but far too many do and others sit by in silence when seeing misogynistic attitudes. According to UK government statistics, every year there are over 400,000 female victims of some form of sexual offence: 85,000 of these are rapes. These are just women over 16, so not including the child victims. Not only is that a heck of a lot of victims, that's a heck of a lot of perpetrators - all those men have to be someone's father, son, brother, husband. And the rest of the male population, what are they doing to call out violence against women? Against the cultural attitude that we're not worth as much? Nothing.
Men serving long term sentances in prisons in America have a 25% chance of being sexually assaulted. If a man expresses concern (or jokes) about the risk of being raped in prison, no-one, not one person, says "not all male prisoners are like that". Let alone if they actually recounted a horrible experience they had. So WHY do men feel the need to do this to women every bloody time they express similar fears/experiences?
yetanothernamitynamechange · 04/01/2021 11:15

@BloggersBlog

That is appalling, what a senseless and unspeakable loss of an amazing lady

I had the same feeling yesterday of 'I hate men' when I was reading about the increase in men offering places to rent in exchange for sex. Nowhere near this scale, I know that.
But the whole culture that they can use their 'power' over desperate women is sick and shows the society we are in.

I remember a good many years ago looking for places to rent in London and coming across loads of suss adverts pretty much explicitly outlining those arrangements. Plus one place I went to view where the man was creepy AF and basically offered the same (although there was no indication of it in the advert). I can absolutely believe its gone up now, with the increase in people desperate for somewhere to stay/unemployed. Absolute scrotey worms. Urrghh
pelosi · 04/01/2021 11:46

What a fucking cunt. RIP Agitu.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 04/01/2021 12:00

Imagine a world where women commit more than 90% of violent crime. Then imagine men just accepting that's just how it is. Yeah, me neither.

R.I.P Agitu Idea Gudeta, she was an inspiration.

pelosi · 04/01/2021 12:07

So true, @thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter

If women did this, we would be controlled, curfewed, electronically tagged.

Frownette · 04/01/2021 12:10

Poor lady, it makes you sick to your stomach.

I've seen some bad male attitudes recently which makes me far more wary around men.

YourWurstNightmare · 04/01/2021 12:15

I'm not a touchy-feely person and I couldn't get through that article without crying. My heart aches for what she went through.

And yes, the older I get, the more I loathe men and their comfy, self-serving silence.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 04/01/2021 12:25

@pelosi

So true, *@thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter*

If women did this, we would be controlled, curfewed, electronically tagged.

Wouldn't we just.
DeeCeeCherry · 04/01/2021 18:39

I can't even click on the link.

I long ago came to the conclusion that I love my sweet and kind DP. I love my brothers. Aside from that I do not like men, generally.

I dislike working with men I have to keep pulling up and telling them - don't talk over me. I am senior and know my job. You don't know my job.

I'm tired of the entitlement of thinking they can approach you and chat shit when you're disinterested.

Tired of misogyny et al.

Male violence is a huge threat to both women, and other men. I don't want to know any man outside my immediate circle and I'm perfectly happy to keep their entitled, mansplaining bullshitting as far away from my life as possible.

I can guess what article is about and I feel so very sorry about it. There's no respite for women and fuck it, it's about self preservation I don't care what the 'menz' think and would never advocate for them.

Callcat · 04/01/2021 18:43

Yep. Most men most of the time. Even the good men are usually not 'good', rather, just a bit less shit.

JustRemembering · 04/01/2021 18:44

She was his boss. Angry

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