Deletion messages- more honesty?

[MichelleScarn]

Not a TAAT in particular (still expecting this to be pulled!), but would probably have more respect if deletion messages said 'thread deleted as not going as op wanted, rather than "identified in real life' 'real life concerns' etc etc!
And know this isn't a new thing but its annoying all the same!

No pile on, just posters saying title was incongruous with actual event!

@OhYesYouDidBoo

Funny, because I have asked before for a thread to be removed and was told MNHQ "don't do that anymore"

I asked for a thread to be deleted and got a bollocks response saying that that would only happen in cases where there was racism or evidence of criminal activity. Demonstrably not true.

Well, obviously like so much in life, you are either one of the chosen or you aren't. I'm not. Just for clarification.

I think 'op didn't get the answers that they wanted so requested the thread to be deleted but had to think of an excuse' is usually more accurate.

I hate the twee
"We're just going to pop this one down and have a look behind the scenes"
Deletion messages more
To be honest

I think it would be a good idea to allow OPs to delete their own threads and people to delete their own posts (with a system message displayed saying what's been done).

I've never really understood why this & other forums don't support that.

(Especially as MN is now a premium site too).

I think that people would be way less emotionally invested in clearly dodgy threads from the start if they could go pooooof at any minute.

@Backbee

I think 'op didn't get the answers that they wanted so requested the thread to be deleted but had to think of an excuse' is usually more accurate.

It probably is, although worth bearing in mind that people can be "unreasonable" for reasons other than simply being a CF.

I agree in principle, but I suppose MNHQ can only share the ‘official’ reason given by the OP in their deletion request. We may well all know that the OP wants to say ‘I thought everyone would agree that my SIL is a rotten old bitch, but actually they think she’s a living saint for putting up with someone as toxic and self-obsessed as me, so I’m pissed off’ - but they can’t. So instead they claim they’ve been identified in real life, and MN can’t take the risk that it’s a pile of old toss.

No idea what thread you’re talking about as only just logged on but if there was a pile on, you can surely understand why a poster might want to remove a thread. Not everyone is feeling very robust at the moment and I know that some people will burst into tears over a minor disagreement when ordinarily, they’d be fine and brush it off. There are a lot of playground bullies on here lately...!

The terms ‘pile-on’ and ‘bullying’ are massively overused on here. It only takes more than a handful of posters to share the same (negative) opinion and it’s a ‘pile-on’. The reality is the OP is probably just wrong.

I agree. MNHQ can only use the reason given to them even if they think that's not really the case. Unless they have proof, they can't just write their suspicion as reason.

This one isn't MNHQ's fault.

I was outed in RL (ended a friendship) and I had to beg to get it pulled!!

Yep it’s irritating.

People put time and effort into responding to threads - often providing practical advice and direction and then the thread gets pulled because OP is having a strop.

Some days I look at my threads your on page and there are more deletions than live threads. I started a thread about that once and it was full of sanctimonious posters ticking me off and stating MN was not for my enjoyment

It’s actually one of the reasons I wouldn’t become a subscriber.

Yes, people can be extremely unreasonable in their opinions. (Brexit voters for a start!!)

However, even if YOU don’t think it’s bullying or a pile on etc. some people are unable to cope with any negative feedback and don’t like to think that they’re not universally liked or admired.

I think a lot of people seem to be quite fragile at the moment and can fixate on the most minor of things and allow matters to grow out of all proportion.

Maybe getting the thread deleted helps them to cope?

Unfortunately, we can’t see people via a screen so we don’t know if they’re ok or not. Presumably, if you knew someone in real life was struggling, you wouldn’t keep arguing that they were wrong and to suck it up because you being proved right is far more important, would you?

@BuggerationFlavouredCrisps

Yes, people can be extremely unreasonable in their opinions. (Brexit voters for a start!!)

However, even if YOU don’t think it’s bullying or a pile on etc. some people are unable to cope with any negative feedback and don’t like to think that they’re not universally liked or admired.

I think a lot of people seem to be quite fragile at the moment and can fixate on the most minor of things and allow matters to grow out of all proportion.

Maybe getting the thread deleted helps them to cope?

Unfortunately, we can’t see people via a screen so we don’t know if they’re ok or not. Presumably, if you knew someone in real life was struggling, you wouldn’t keep arguing that they were wrong and to suck it up because you being proved right is far more important, would you?

Totally agree with this.

If you're struggling with loneliness or depression it can be easy to be upset by something and not be thinking clearly or rationally about the issue, or your response. The last thing you need is a load of people telling you you're wrong/stupid/unreasonable/selfish, etc., even if they're right!