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Second-best to your siblings?

27 replies

HarryHarryHarry · 24/12/2020 20:21

I was on a Christmas Eve video call with my family back home earlier and I ended up just hanging up because there was literally no point in me being there, nobody even acknowledged my presence, or that of my small children. When my sibling is around, nobody is ever interested in me or my family. It’s always been the way.

When my mum was dying, I gave up my job and my home and moved away from my husband to care for her in the country where she lived. In her last days, when it was obvious that she didn’t have much longer, my sibling decided to go on holiday instead of visiting her. At the funeral, however, our relatives acted like there was a celebrity in the room when my sibling (who looks down their nose at them and has barely had any contact with them since childhood) arrived. I was the one who had spent months of my life in and out of hospitals, cleaning up piss and vomit and blood, driving family members all over the place, but all anybody could talk about was how attractive, how rich, how “successful” my sibling was. (In truth, my parents paid their rent through university and bought the the big house in which they now live whereas I was sort of left to my own devices). It didn’t bother me much at the time because I just wanted to be left alone anyway but looking back I’m astounded at how shallow people seem to be.

On the video call our relatives mentioned the cards and presents they had sent my sibling and their child. Nothing for me or my children.

I really don’t understand why this is the case. I make such an effort with my family and never forget birthdays or anniversaries, always ask how they are, try to show an interest in their lives. My sibling literally does nothing.

Does anybody else have the same in their family?

(I realize this is such a small concern in comparison to the other problems in the world right now but it’s getting me down and I don’t really have anybody to talk to about it).

OP posts:
ScrapThatThen · 24/12/2020 20:45

It's the prodigal son story isn't it? I think it's very common for the person doing the most to be acknowledged the least, especially when female ime, but it's not right or fair. The presents thing is really out of order. I wonder how you will go forward OP, and if you will change your priorities?

DrManhattan · 24/12/2020 21:06

I have heard of this before. No idea why it happene as it doesn't seem logical. But what is logical about families?

BluebellsGreenbells · 24/12/2020 21:11

It’s a bit like rewards at school.

There’s an expectation and exceeding expectation.

Mary is well behaved and has to be exceptional to receive a reward or be noticed.
Ann is a pain in the butt but hasn’t hit anyone for three days and gets rewarded.

OP you have to decide to either ignore abs let it wash over you or ask the awkward questions!

VVKills27 · 24/12/2020 21:12

@HarryHarryHarry

I’m so sorry you have to experience this and I think it’s absolutely terribly behaviour from your relatives. How on Earth they can find this acceptable & not acknowledge their rudeness is beyond me, you would be well within your rights to have a polite word with them about their treatment and disregard towards you. I wouldn’t make any effort now as they are just so unappreciative. Their loss! x

katy1213 · 24/12/2020 21:15

I'm wondering if you engage in the call or just sit there simmering with resentment?

HarryHarryHarry · 24/12/2020 21:25

@katy1213 No I was all ready to chat away to people about whatever until I realized everybody was ignoring me! Just all gushing about my sibling and her kid. We have a new baby as well so it was even more noticeable that we were being ignored when nobody even acknowledged her!

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20mum · 24/12/2020 22:09

This is abuse. You have been trained to accept it. You certainly wouldn't want a child of yours to witness it, or to have contact with such cruel nasty people. Everything to do with them is deliberately hurtful to you. Why not just stop contact, and regain your peace of mind by associating exclusively with people who appreciate you for the lovely person you are?

FrankskinnerscRoc · 24/12/2020 22:26

The bad one in the family always seems to get all the attention. I can only assume that people believe that this will make them better people, but it doesn’t it just makes them worse. Walk away from it OP, you deserve so much more than this.

TaraR2020 · 24/12/2020 22:27

Have first hand experience of this type of behaviour, it's sh*t isn't it?
I'm sorry you're going through this and although I know how painful it is and how I'm not able to suggest anything to change the situation, I will say- as hard as it might be for you to accept - how they treat you is no reflection of your worth and please try to separate your self esteem from them. You deserve a lot better and I hope you find it in the family you choose instead Flowers

OhBollocksToIt · 24/12/2020 22:28

Just stop bothering, stop making an effort, stop sending presents. What’s the point? They aren’t going to change so just concentrate on your own little family.

Cherrysoup · 24/12/2020 23:01

Stop bloody pandering to your family! This makes me so cross on your behalf. They clearly don’t give a shiny shit about you. No more presents for them. Protect yourself, OP, they are making you the black sheep.

DeRigueurMortis · 24/12/2020 23:28

Sadly you're not alone.

There have been many threads on "the golden sibling".

The general consensus is that you can't change the way your family treat you but you can change the way you treat them.

There's absolutely no point in continuing to put yourself through this.

Go none or low contact.

Don't put yourself out for them.

Concentrate on your new baby (congratulations!) and husband and build a family unit of your own free of this toxicity.

The other thing to say is that it's also common that the golden child is the least kind/tolerant/helpful. I think there's often a cycle here of them getting extra attention (at the expense of their siblings) because families feel without it they'll get nothing, whereas they are used to other siblings not rocking the boat.

It's such a crappy dynamic OP and I think you were right to hang up the call.

Dreamymcdreamer · 24/12/2020 23:38

Oh OP that's so shit. We have this in our family too and it's so demeaning.

It's so upsetting when people seem to think the sun shines out of one persons arse when actually they're a pretty horrible human being.

We made an effort to go LC and just remain civil when needed.

gah2teenagers · 25/12/2020 00:20

Enjoy your new baby and lovely family and ignore the fuckers. And yes definitely make no effort with them as it clearly makes no difference.

foreverandalways · 25/12/2020 00:29

I am second best to my younger brother.....I do everything for my father and nothing in return...he's the golden child....I am hosting for my dad tomorrow...no invite from my brother for him...I am done after tomorrow x

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 25/12/2020 00:31

Awful behaviour from them.

It's a bit like that with DH but he is the golden one. He is lovely but he barely does anything for them and they act like the sun shines out of his arse. He gets a bigger Easter egg. Gets more expensive presents. Has excuses made for him when he hasn't behaved that well. Gets praised for doing very little. His sister has got mental health issues and l can't say l'm surprised. It really is so bizarre and at times very uncomfortable. We laugh about it but really it's not funny at all.

peppermintteadrinker · 25/12/2020 00:39

I hear you feel very similar. I get praise for putting myself last and being considerate when that is how I've been conditioned. dB gets his own way and excuses for appalling behaviour and it all gets laughed off.
I'm alone tomorrow with my little boy. Have seen family once this year. They arranged Xmas to be with dB without telling me and are breaking rules and taking risks to do it. I'm so pissed off. Which is why I am awake.

I honestly don't want to talk to them tomorrow.

FrenchBoule · 25/12/2020 01:21

@peppermintteadrinker then don’t.

You’re not obliged to speak to them and have your nose rubbed in that “the faaaamily” got together.
Switch off the phones and enjoy the day with your wee boy 💕

DeRigueurMortis · 25/12/2020 02:11

[quote FrenchBoule]@peppermintteadrinker then don’t.

You’re not obliged to speak to them and have your nose rubbed in that “the faaaamily” got together.
Switch off the phones and enjoy the day with your wee boy 💕[/quote]

Agree just don't engage.

They didn't want to include you in their Christmas plans so you've no obligation to to include them in yours.

Turn off your phone/block their number and spend a relaxing day with your nuclear family.

Don't expend any mental effort on them.

HarryHarryHarry · 25/12/2020 04:30

Thank you all for your kind words and advice, I feel really touched that you took the time to reply so thoughtfully.

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Rubinia · 25/12/2020 09:09

Hope you're feeling better this morning? This is really cruel. Don't allow your children to see you being mistreated.

GreekGod · 25/12/2020 09:24

Merry Christmas OP ! Sadly, it happens and it is difficult. However, the exact same thing happened to my poor mum. Her family treated her exactly the same way and her sisters were the shining stars. But my mum is the best mum ever. She is lovely, has no favourites and was determined not to do the same thing to do her own children.

All i will say is you are lovely, focus on your own family and I would kindly say stop offering to help so much. Back off and concentrate on your own family and children. You have a new born baby, enjoy, they grow up so quick.

CuriousSeal · 25/12/2020 09:42

Did they even ask where you went when you left the call OP?

I'm so sorry that your family treat you this way. It's definitely time to put your own mental wellbeing first, for your children's sake. You deserve better x

Avonandice · 25/12/2020 10:01

I sort of have it, I have a DB who has always struggled with his temper so was always encouraged but the family - not my mum tho - to make sure he didnt loose his temper.Grandmother especially, probably because he is the boy and as the parents got divorced it was pushed that he could be really affected by it and he was suffering as dad had left, so I was to be a 'good girl and help him to cope with it.

I also have a half sibling who had the private education, the university chances, the flat paid for while studying,the deposit for the house paid, the out of school clubs, the many holidays to disney and abroad and the wedding had a massive chunk contributed to, the new car on passing the test, the new car for their 21st.

I think it was summed up by one of the aunts perfectly. She told me after she had gone on about how clever/attractive/kind/helpful half sibling was and the fact that DB is the only boy in the family that I was 'capable'
Guess Ive had to be

20mum · 25/12/2020 19:03

@rubinia said it:
"don't allow your children to see you being mistreated"

This is extremely important. Many abused children, abused wives, abused parents and abused siblings have at some stage seen what to copy. They have learned what to endure, they have learned what to imitate, they have been trained to accept a world of needless cruelty. No matter if they imitate the doormat or imitate those who walk on it, it isn't a healthy thing to have in their brains. It won't be good for them or their relationships.

Lots of people, especially women, wrongly accept training that they should endure without protest what is unacceptable, and that in that way they are 'being good', or 'being kind' or 'being a nice person'. They are, all of those things. But they are failing their obligation to themselves and to others to also 'be fair', 'be reasonable', 'be equal', 'keep acceptable boundaries'.

Those last four things are what their children need to watch.

Nobody would let their children watch cruelty to animals. Be a good mother by not letting them watch cruelty to people, including to yourself.