To believe tomorrow’s Sun headline will be England 3, Germany 0!!?

[Tellmetruth4]

That photo with Johnson’s double thumbs up will be front page too. Jingoism overload tomorrow.

@nosswith

No papers on Christmas Day.

Details so far suggest the UK has just agreed to the EU in all but name. Fishing for another five years or more by EU fishermen/women, no Erasmus programme participation.

Monsieur Macron closing the borders earlier this week probably forced the UK hand.

Without many of the benefits we actually had as well. What a joke.

We'll never had a deal as good as the one we had. A veto, an opt out, single market, customs union, our own currency.

Distasteful, his smirking. Not a day to celebrate.
This is all so stage managed. Wrapped up like a Christmas present for the nation and on the eve of what is going to be the day of the highest death toll of the entire pandemic.
Look over there everyone !!!! Ignore the elephant in the room.

Not sure how pleased the Sun's readers will be, an awful lot of them seem to regard it as a total failure to make any sort of deal with the EU.

@Tellmetruth4

Or maybe ‘Fishermen’s Friend!!’

Can't see how Fisherman's Friend would work.

The EU suggested 6 years to transition to a 15% repatriation of quotas. UK wanted 3 years to 60%. We got 5 and a half years to work towards keeping 25% of the catch in our waters. That's not exactly stellar, and it's pretty clear who was in control throughout.

@rosie1959

For some it wouldn’t matter what he had done it would never be good enough Quite frankly well done Boris you have had more shit to deal with in this year more probably than any pm since Churchill

and he did it so well.........not

rosie i'll stick my head over the parapet with you as i could have written your posts, but i don't own a loo brush .

It was inevitable. Any negotiations of 1 nation versus the combined might of 27 (with 2 of the 27 individually being larger than the 1) meant the U.K. was heavily out gunned. It was always a fantasy that the U.K. had anything other than a choice or align with EU or align with US trading standards. And given geography, aligning with EU is the smarter of the two choices.

Warmandtoasty2day lol I am probably a bit older on here so long past the time of worrying what others think

Boris can hardly start shouting "you were supposed to vote REMAIN you dumwits! I was supposed to come out as the leader of the opposition to Brexit, blame EVERYTHING on the EU,now you ruined it and it's an impossible mess."

I bet he thought that many many times though...

@rosie1959

Warmandtoasty2day lol I am probably a bit older on here so long past the time of worrying what others think

it's a great feeling isn't it ? i don't subscribe to the 'yes' brigade either if i don't agree, so many people are afraid of getting piled on i think, and would probably take it personally, although the site is anonymous and no one knows who they are. we'll fly the flag for freedom of speech

I wonder if HMQ is re-recording her broadcast?

Surely it’s a bit more like that scene in Pulp Fiction with the barrel and the ball gag.

Macron closed the ports right before Christmas and we’ve had to utterly capitulate to get him to reopen them.

Apparently the poor HM has been holding off on her speech as long as she possibly can because a) wtaf can she say in the middle of all this, and b) things change every five minutes and her speech is likely to be out of date before she's half way through it.

A friend said to me last week, very cynically, that he was now certain that the deal was long since done, and was just being held back until the last minute as a PR thing, since this whole 'if we just talk a little more for a few hours' stuff would have made very little difference if there was an actual impasse. He's been proven right and I owe him a drink.

I actually believe in this country and that anything is possible and no it’s not perfect by a long way but negative thinking achieves nothing
And I actually voted remain but I also believe in democracy

Well my prediction of a Christmas deal announcement was correct.

Nothing to celebrate here.

The correct question is not that this is better than a no deal. There is no doubt that that it is. The question to ask is is this better than what we had before.

Given that we lose so much then it most definitely is not.

I have voted tory all my life, have several loo brushes and voted for Brexit, I don't care what anyone thinks, you don't know where I live.

Clever thinking by Macron regarding shutting the ports.Covid 19 gave him the opportunity to play hard ball by leaving thousands of trucks stuck in Dover and the M20.
The EU certainly used the pandemic to their advantage for atleast this situation with the ports. It certainly put the UK under pressure.
Those poor truck drivers stuck without no toilets or food.

@Originalyellowbelly

I have voted tory all my life, have several loo brushes and voted for Brexit, I don't care what anyone thinks, you don't know where I live.

you go girl woman !

Well concession to the EU on everything is not how I read the deal

At least 2021 will start without uncertainty about Brexit. I did not agreed with Brexit but could totally see why people voted for it.

And yes Well done Boris and team!!!

@MaryLeeOnHigh

Not sure how pleased the Sun's readers will be, an awful lot of them seem to regard it as a total failure to make any sort of deal with the EU.

Good point

For some it wouldn’t matter what he had done it would never be good enough

Well yeah, because for most there was nothing he could do that wouldn't result in them being worse off than before.

It's good that we've avoided a no deal, but I think it's a bit much to expect people to actually be happy that we've now agreed a to an objectively worse deal than we previously had.

One thing I am relieved over is the national security situation is all sorted. The risk of there not being agreements there was frightening. Quite frankly fish were the last of our worries.

I know my husbands friend was shocked when he moved teams a few months ago. The lack of planning around satellites and other previously shared information and technology if we had no deal was scary.

@Hearwego

Clever thinking by Macron regarding shutting the ports.Covid 19 gave him the opportunity to play hard ball by leaving thousands of trucks stuck in Dover and the M20. The EU certainly used the pandemic to their advantage for atleast this situation with the ports. It certainly put the UK under pressure. Those poor truck drivers stuck without no toilets or food.

We probably have used it to our advantage if the other way around. It is the way politicians work.

Yes those poor drivers stuck and Christmas too. Fingers crossed as many make it home tonight as possible.