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Could someone please tell me that this vaccine is going to work and this will all be over this year?

68 replies

Margeryprongs · 22/12/2020 13:53

Just that.

It will work, won't it?
And this nightmare will end and I'll be able to see my mum, the kids will be in school full time no probs and ill be able to go to a gig by September, surely?

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 22/12/2020 14:34

@HeyBaby2020

I've seen your posts. And I'm not "babe"

HeyBaby2020 · 22/12/2020 14:36

[quote ilovesooty]@HeyBaby2020

I've seen your posts. And I'm not "babe"[/quote]
I just say what I think hun x

ilovesooty · 22/12/2020 14:46

I'm not "hun" either.
I know what I think of the posts I've read. However, no wish to derail the OP's thread.

hamblebamble · 22/12/2020 14:47

It's unlikely tbh. This virus will probably be around for a while, much like the flu. At some point we will all just have to accept it and get on with our lives. My youngest dd is also CEV so I get how shit it is but it is what it is.

nosswith · 22/12/2020 14:48

I think the vaccine will have been rolled out in this country sufficiently by September, but would not say the same for everywhere, and would not at this stage book a holiday abroad.

ilovesooty · 22/12/2020 14:49

[quote CuriousaboutSamphire]@mbosnz that's pretty much how we are coping. No real expectations of change, only form loose plans and have a few loosely imagined plans b,c etc. Don't get attached to any single plan, idea, hope etc.

I can't influence any of it, iI can only manage my own expecations... andhope to influence those of family!

So I am still sitting tight, looking for the joy in little things and not sweating the future![/quote]
I think that's a good way to look at it.

emilyfrost · 22/12/2020 14:53

@ilovesooty

I'm not "hun" either. I know what I think of the posts I've read. However, no wish to derail the OP's thread.
Don’t feed the covid troll Grin
CheesePleaseLoueese · 22/12/2020 14:56

@nosswith

I think the vaccine will have been rolled out in this country sufficiently by September, but would not say the same for everywhere, and would not at this stage book a holiday abroad.
I think that's a fair assessment.
Chloemol · 22/12/2020 15:02

I think it will be better than this year , however in order to get there at least 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated. I am honestly not sure if that will be done by September, but I hope so

cologne4711 · 22/12/2020 15:05

@Chloemol

I think it will be better than this year , however in order to get there at least 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated. I am honestly not sure if that will be done by September, but I hope so
Only 20% of the population needs to be vaccinated for 80% of the benefits. That will happen way before September.

I agree with the advice not to book an overseas holiday too precipitously though.

bailey999 · 22/12/2020 15:05

The people behind the pzifer vaccine said today they expect it to be effective against the new strain but if not they can modify it to be effective within 6 weeks although I dont know if that would mean more trials etc

whatswithtodaytoday · 22/12/2020 15:12

I think things will be much better next summer. I suspect there will be some restrictions next winter - mask wearing indoors, no large-scale events etc. But perhaps not, who knows. So long as the vaccine roll-out goes well - and we are gearing up to deliver the Oxford vaccine on a massive scale - we will be ok.

At some point the government will say it's down to personal responsibility.

Whammyyammy · 22/12/2020 15:15

Its 95% effective against the original strain, thats all we know

wanderings · 22/12/2020 15:21

Right now, it all feels very hopeless: the government agenda right now is for people to be terrified and depressed, so they are laying the doom and gloom on thick, because they want people to "behave" over Christmas, as it was the one time when the public are difficult to control. It all seems very hopeless right now, because the government want us to feel that way. And I'm saying that with less cynicism than usual. It's painfully obvious that the government are manipulating us like this, using the press. This is nothing new - Tony Blair was a master of doing this, but he was more skilled and subtle with it. I'm one of those who suspects that announcing the "new strain" was a way to get the people to "behave", which backfired when the rest of the world took the announcement seriously.

This government spinning can work both ways. At some point, they will decide it's time to "reverse the scaremongering", perhaps when they realise we're running out of money to keep funding lockdown, and when rates finally do go down. Sooner or later, they will need the public to be socialising and spending. Remember how they tried to make it happen in the summer, with "eat out to help out" being just one of the ways? So even if the vaccine is not working, the government will pretend it is, and will fiddle the figures to make it look as if it is working, just like it did to make the virus look absolutely terrible and deadly when they need to scare the public.

Call me a conspiracist if you will, but it's what governments do, or try to: they always have, they always will. Boris just isn't very good at it.

whatswithtodaytoday · 22/12/2020 23:12

@Whammyyammy

Its 95% effective against the original strain, thats all we know
There have been hundreds of mutations of the virus already, that's what viruses do. We would know already if any of the approved vaccines didn't work for them.

There's no reason to think that the vaccines won't work against this strain, any more than any of the others.

ChestnutStuffing · 23/12/2020 03:01

I have doubts that the vaccines will work as well as many people hope. I think it will be much more difficult to get people vaccinated, the vaccines are unlikely to be as effective as I suspect many people are assuming they will be, and we are already seeing new strains which may not respond to the vaccines as well, or at all.

That being said, even if that is the case, I don't think it will be easy, or even possible, to keep up the same level of restrictions. People may continue to accept some, but others, like not seeing people, I do not think people will accept, and there could be legal challenges.

ChestnutStuffing · 23/12/2020 03:02

@Whammyyammy

Its 95% effective against the original strain, thats all we know
In a lab setting. Which is not usually the same as actual use.
OhWhyNot · 23/12/2020 03:09

I think be spring we shall see some improvements and less restrictions over time (will be back and forth)

ChippyChickenChips · 23/12/2020 03:12

They can expect but I won’t be wearing them nor will I be social distancing past March

The arrogance of youth. I do really hope that you and your family scrape through this with no harm done. I also wish I knew now as much as I did when I was 20.

middleager · 23/12/2020 03:12

Who knows OP?

What I dislike is the Government's babying of adults, saying we'll have this sorted by summer/Xmas as the PM falsely said. Then some people get their hopes up and demand answers that aren't there. We are used to having instant fixes with so many things that I think we can't cope with ambiguity (and I'm guilty of that).

It is scary to have no answer and it's hard to distract yourself.

My mother has got all her hopes pinned on the vaccine.

YukoandHiro · 23/12/2020 03:17

@wanderings normally I'd agree 100 per cent, and I do think there's an element of that in play, but I'm in London and people are dropping like flies despite having taken extreme caution. I know far more people personally who have had it or been identified as a contact this time around

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 23/12/2020 03:19

I have no expectations.

ChippyChickenChips · 23/12/2020 03:19

Call me a conspiracist if you will, but it's what governments do, or try to: they always have, they always will. Boris just isn't ver to vy good at it

9k, you're a conspiracist. We're all looking for a way out of this. Nobody moreso tha Boris

EveryPlanetHasAYorkshire · 23/12/2020 03:20

Also Boris is a clown Smile

Crakeandoryx · 23/12/2020 03:23

I think it will get better In 2021. It might take a few months, I'm not making plans but I'm optimistic of an improvement.

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