Can I travel to Scotland

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We live in North West England tier 2. My mum lives in North East Scotland. My dad is in hospital receiving palliative care. I have, over the past month been up to see my parents twice and stayed with my mum. Can I go for Christmas? This will be the last time my children 11 & 8 get to see their Grandad and might be my last chance to say goodbye. I feel as if I'm already in a support bubble with my mum but as it's long distance I'm not sure. Please can someone tell me if I'm allowed to go?

You dont mention a partner?

You'd be best checking the govt guidelines OP, on here you'll get lots of conflicting answers.

Bumping for you... Not sure about Scottish rules re crossing border in this scenerio....

There is a travel ban so no, you cannot. And the police have said that they will be increasing patrol cars around the border areas to keep a check on it.

However, in your situation, I would do it.

I opened this just to say no. But in your case I would just go ahead. It’s not within the rules but is understandable

travel for gatherings related to funerals or for compassionate reasons which relate to the end of a person’s life. This includes gatherings related to the scattering of ashes.

That's one of the exceptions to the rule. So that seems like it could apply.

Yes I have a husband who also has a 15 year old son living in north east Scotland so he has through lockdown travelled to see him He checked during first lockdown that it was allowed and was told it was fine. I thought that as my dad is dying it would be classed as exceptional circumstances???

travel to provide care, assistance, support to or respite for a vulnerable person

That's another. You can definitely justify it to police if you are stopped.

Your husband can still travel to see his son. That is also an exception.

I’d do it.

If you’re stopped then tell them the truth.

Go!

Go. You only get one chance to say goodbye

I would say you can go
Jason Leitch ( National Clinical director -) was on TV this morning
saying you could travel across the border for very specific reasons such as end of life visit to a relative , or providing support to a vulnerable person ,
so you cannot go specifically for Christmas but can go to provide support to your mum

Thank you. If I'd known this was going to happen I would have taken the kids off school earlier and taken them to see my dad but I thought since they have missed so much school this year I would wait until the holidays

yes you can go and visit your Dad. It's allowed.

Allowed or not, I think you should go. Check the rules carefully and make up something that does fall into the rules if this doesn’t. Boris referred time cancelling Christmas as ‘inhuman’ which is ridiculous- but to stop you and your kids seeing your dad really would be inhuman.

Yes this is exactly the exception scenario that Jason Leitch confirmed was permitted.
I’m so sorry about your dad ,
I sincerely hope your family has the best bonding time and quality time possible given the circumstances.
Take care

If you get stopped they will ask for a valid reason, you gave one. It’s the idiots who don’t that they want to catch.

Yes, your Dad's situation is one of the exceptions to the rule.

Your husband can also travel to see his child (the only problem he may have is if he usually stays in a hotel - he'd be advised to check with them before he travels)

You can travel for the reasons you have given. I would go if I was you.

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There is a travel ban so no, you cannot. And the police have said that they will be increasing patrol cars around the border areas to keep a check on it.

However, in your situation, I would do it.

If op is going to do it then maybe she should carry something with her about her dad to show the police if she is stopped.

If your mum is currently a single household then there is no problem being a support bubble with her, and as far as I know that works across the border. Plus there are extra exemptions for family care.

So I’d read up on the English and Scottish regs, get packed and head off - no one is going to stop you but if they do - just explain clearly that you are supporting your elderly mum in whatever terms the regs allow.

TBH no one is likely to stop you but will probably make you feel better to know you have a legitimate reason for travel.

(Ignore all the ‘there are police everywhere’ posts - no there aren’t, and if you do run into one they won’t stop you under your circs)

Thank you so much for all your replies. I've been so stressed about it all. I've now got an email from his Dr in case we get stopped

www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-travel-and-transport/#exceptions

My MIL is terminal. Living in Scotland. We're in tier 3.
DH is allowed to go and see her as she's his mother. I'm not allowed.