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To look for another job?

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Aibuornot123 · 18/12/2020 19:41

Albu to apply for other jobs when more than half of the people I manage earn more than me?

I have been helping the people I manage to do their jobs. They are good and will do well, but I have been teaching them how to do the work and I also have more experience than they do in our specific role.

During discussion, someone a few levels up from me said 'Why would we pay someone more? If they were able to pass an interview and get another job at a higher salary then they would already have done so'.

Does this sound like a typical 'natural wastage' scenario where management are expecting staff to leave for higher salaries to avoid having to pay them more?

Albu to apply for roles that pay more?

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OrigamiOwl · 18/12/2020 19:53

Time to start looking for a new job OP...

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Aibuornot123 · 18/12/2020 20:09

It does sound like the best idea, but the company I work for do put an emphasis on employee loyalty.

I have a very long notice period and people who have left in the past with a shorter notice have been denied benefits such as their bonus during their notice.

After what has been said and based on other people's salary, I think moving would be best even without my annual bonus.

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Lookatthat · 18/12/2020 20:11

Lots of companies will choose to not pay bonus in your notice period (if they’re non contractual). Just time your notice period wisely.

Chailatte20 · 18/12/2020 20:17

Yes time to look for a new job in the new year but don't leave until you have found one. it was like this in my old workplace, the manager recruited her acquaintances at a higher salary. They were incompetent but she liked this as it made her look amazing. I left after I had to train one dimwit who couldn't wipe his arse without someone holding his hand earnt £15k more than me. I could have easily done his role blindfolded.

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Aibuornot123 · 18/12/2020 20:39

Good point @Lookatthat it's a case of resisting the potential offer of an increase, which will lead to another cycle of job interviews and pay increases.

By the way I'm very aware how lucky I am to have a job in the current climate, but I'm also aware that some company's are taking advantage.

@Chailatte20 that sounds very similar to the situation I am in. Without putting a downer on the other people as I know they have potential. At the moment, I'm sacrificing my own mental and physical health to help them while they earn more than I do.

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slashlover · 18/12/2020 20:58

Why would you be unreasonable? Even if you were paid double what the people you manage are, you wouldn't be unreasonable to have look.

Chailatte20 · 18/12/2020 21:03

the skills toolkit

SeaWitchly · 18/12/2020 21:17

I have been in a similar position - discovered that the employee I was mentoring and supporting in her role was being paid the same as me. I asked for a pay rise commensurate with my qualifications and years of experience and was told I was well paid within the company. Meanwhile all the additional reesponsibility/shitwork that goes with doing the senior role was being loaded on me . So I decided to step down from the senior role [with no drop in salary] whilst I look for another position... now my challenge is to ensure I don't automatically step in to fill the gap of there being no senior person - so who is going to write those reports, arrange meetings and manage locum staff ?

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Aibuornot123 · 28/12/2020 12:45

@SeaWitchly Funnily enough I have been asked recently to mentor someone who is paid the same as me to help them get a more senior role. Ironically this is a similar role to the one I have already asked about moving to and I was told it was possible but not immediately as there was no-one to replace me and it hasn't been mentioned since. The role I would be helping to train this person for would be at a higher level than the others again, but would likely not pay as much as they have a maximum amount that they will give for a raise even if it is a promotion...or so I have been told. The only people who have received a big raise are the people that got a job offer from somewhere else.

I do not want to end up working in a position where I might resent the fact I have to mentor people earning more than me as it is not fair on anyone. Sounds like 2021 will be a new year and fingers crossed a new job.

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partyatthepalace · 28/12/2020 13:31

Yep, start looking now. Give yourself time to find the right one.

SeaWitchly · 06/01/2021 19:47

Aibuornot yes, it is very demoralising. I also do not understand the rationale behind denying me a very modest pay increase which would reflect my senior position. My manager acknowledged they do not have anyone in mind to replace me in the senior role. The field I work in is specialised and it is not easy to find suitably qualified and experienced staff to do the job, let alone someone with the skills and experience to lead the team. But it's not my problem now. I have stepped down and have let the team know I am no longer in the senior position - which means I can comfortably turn down tasks and responsibilities which I would have otherwise felt obliged to complete or issues which I would have felt obliged to resolve. I have also dropped a day to make time to concentrate on my private clients/home run business. 2021 is looking good so far 😊

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