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January intake at Preschool

15 replies

TheOtherMaryBerry · 16/12/2020 12:05

Now, I know this is nothing compared to what others have going on (even compared to our own current worries but it's really starting to get to me.

DS (just turned 3) is due to be starting preschool in January. We live on a small estate with its own primary school so this is the school he will be going to. It looks like a lovely school, good results etc so I'm happy enough. We've only lived on this estate for a year and nearby for about 6 months before that whilst we moved from a completely different city. Due to all the madness this year obviously we haven't managed to make any friends, create any sort of support network up here so I don't know anyone who has children at the school.

I put DSs name down for the preschool as soon as we moved to the city as we'd moved from a busy city with competition over places but all well here, plenty of space.

My vague plan was to start DS on a couple of mornings at the private nursery (which is on the same grounds as the school) early this year but obviously first lockdown scuppered that and it seemed silly to start him somewhere later on this summer only to move him a few months later.

Finally had a letter from the school asking me to confirm his place in late October and saying that they were offering only afternoon places, not ideal for us but I do understand given bubbles and everything. I sent the form back and heard nothing.

I was starting to worry they hadn't received the form so rang the school and they did confirm they had him down and that they'd be able to get information packs out at some point but they were struggling, again, fair enough. They were very apologetic about the delay.

I was finally contacted to pick up the information pack last week. The cover letter says that the foundation lead 'intends' to ring all parents during this last week of term. It also says that I'll be sent an 'all about me' form so they can get to know DS. Neither have happened yet. I know it's not the end of the week yet but it's cutting it fine in terms of rescheduling if necessary. It's a mix of old and new info but so frustrating to see the bits about the introductory meeting and home visits that should have happened.

This information pack now tells me, just a few weeks before starting, that DS needs to wear a uniform(nothing about this on the website.) It's not cheap and presumably DS is going to get it mucky so I'm going to need a few of everything. I've had a chance to look at trousers and all grey school trousers have fasteners. I'm sure this won't be a problem but DS is not that long out of pull ups and is doing amazingly but is almost always in jogging bottoms or soft trousers. It just seems a big ask to introduce zips and the like at the same time as inevitable nervousness about using the toilet away from parents for the first time. It also specifies black shoes, not trainers but the only non trainer shoes I can find in DS size are pumps, not really suitable for the weather. I'm not sure how I feel about him wearing a uniform at such a young age...it all seems a bit much.

It also talks about expected levels of attendance, totally fine for reception but surely they can't be too strict about the occasional afternoon off for a 3 year old!? I don't mind him being in a slightly more formal setting as he's a bright boy and enjoys doing letters and numbers and things but I'm not sure whether it's going to be too much.

Basically, I'm worried (not unusual for me) about the fact that I've had to make this huge decision for DS with no opportunity to visit, it's not informed at all. There are options, he could go to the private nursery, but I also can't visit there to see what it's like. Obviously I also don't have to send him but there aren't any toddler groups and I'm desperate for him to start socialising.

He's a bit shy and has had almost no interaction with other children since early this year. I've been a SAHM so he's not been in any kind of childcare before. I think it's going to be such a massive transition for him and that's fine and to be expected but there's no allowance for that at the moment. I totally understand why but the thought of leaving him outside the school gates to be taken through to the classroom by someone he and I have never met, never spoken to, don't even know the name of just seems very sudden and hard.

I've been reading him some general starting nursery books and talking about it all but further than that I'm struggling to know what to say when I don't even know the name of his class teacher, don't know what the classroom looks like or how it's set up. I don't even know what entrance I'm supposed to be leaving him at, it's almost as if the school assumes that you know a lot of these things.

Of course the letter also said to ring if there were any questions and I did try but couldn't get through.

So, AIBU to be stressed and a bit unhappy about how things are going. Don't get me wrong, I totally understand how difficult things are for schools at the moment and I'm fully prepared for you all to tell me that I'm being a bit precious, in fact, I'd welcome it!

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TheOtherMaryBerry · 16/12/2020 12:06

Sorry it's so long!

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HoneysuckIejasmine · 16/12/2020 12:09

Do you need him to start to childcare reasons? If not, maybe just ask if you can postpone his start until you are able to do these things - summer or September. As he's just 3 he'll still have a whole year in preschool if you defer until September

Maryis · 16/12/2020 12:19

You can give it a go and if he doesn't like it, bring him out again education isnt compulsory yet, you can even apply somewhere else for the September if you preferred

My son started in January and has been fine (obviously massive break march- September) now he is one of the experienced older ones and loving it, he has an amazing experienced teacher who is used to dealing with 3 years olds! (She does most of it through music!)

Most school trousers don't have fasteners for this age, my giant 4 year old is in 6-7 and they are elasticated, try Sainsbury's and M&s, join school Facebook page and see if anyone wants to sell/Facebook market place etc, grey joggers might even be fine, I'd check

The attendance is probably due to the popularity of the school, they will be used to nursery age taking time off though they can't do much about it anyway as attendance isnt compulsory

I'd try and ring again or email about it and perhaps see if you can connect to other local parents maybe through the schools pages, I do understand it's all so confusing but it will be the same for everyone!

ShyTown · 16/12/2020 12:24

It does sound slightly on the strict side but my DD is at a (private) school nursery and I think pretty much all of your post sounds familiar except the fasteners on the trousers since that doesn’t apply to the girl’s uniform. We also joined mid term, not even having toured in person due to COVID, and initial communication from the office was patchy. I did feel really weird just dropping her off not knowing where we were supposed to go and like you I had a lot of hesitations but we’d recently moved from another country, both work full time and didn’t have another option! And I’m glad we weren’t put off as everything went wonderfully, DD loves it, the school are great, communication has improved now we’ve figured out the basics and are on the usual contact lists. Her development over the last term has been amazing and we’ve made friends with other parents too.

So no, I don’t think you’re being at all precious, but based on our experience I would give it a go!

Good luck with whatever you decide.

piscesangel · 16/12/2020 12:32

I completely understand why you are having doubts but, gently, if a 3 year old has had almost no interaction with other children for the best part of a year it is probably becoming quite important that he be provided with an opportunity to develop his social skills. My sister is a preschool teacher and has been having a horrendous time managing her class this term because, following a period of 6 months or so away from others, they are simply not where they should be in terms of independence and social skills. (Clarks do school shoes from infant size 7 if that helps).

TheOtherMaryBerry · 16/12/2020 12:38

Thank you all for replying!

Do you need him to start to childcare reasons?

No, fortunately not in that position at all. I'm just worried about him getting opportunities to play and socialise. I also think if I deferred until April or September it would be for me rather than for him.

Most school trousers don't have fasteners for this age, my giant 4 year old is in 6-7 and they are elasticated, try Sainsbury's and M&s

Thank you, that's great. I'd only tried Asda and Tesco so far but we do have a decent sized Sainsbury's not too far away so I think we'll try there next!

ShyTown

Thank you, good to know it's gone so well for your DD. I think I've been worried that the communication issues are a bad sign but trying to just accept how difficult it is for them at the moment. I'm sure it will improve once he's actually there and we have access to the app they use for sending information!

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TheOtherMaryBerry · 16/12/2020 12:46

if a 3 year old has had almost no interaction with other children for the best part of a year it is probably becoming quite important that he be provided with an opportunity to develop his social skills.

Yes, I totally agree. It's not what I wanted for him at all, it's been so frustrating. When the first lockdown finished, only one of his toddler groups started up again and we had to sit on separate crash mats and all play with own toys so it still wasn't at all like playing together. I only know a few people here and most have been very busy for various reasons. We did bump into someone from the toddler group a few weeks ago chatted for a little bit and her DD and DS played together so beautifully, it made me so sad to think of how much he's missed out on this year.

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ivfbeenbusy · 16/12/2020 12:47

That all sounds completely normal - if you attend a pre school attached to a primary then uniform and minimum attendance is standard

No they aren't overly strict on the attendance as legally they can't fine you (even if the letter says it can) but you'll get a phone call if you don't notify them that he isn't going to attend one day.

It's all designed to get the child....and you...into a routine and prepare for formal primary school

Other than the jumpers uniform can be picked up from most supermarkets for a few ££

Most kids I know who didn't go to pre school really struggled with starting primary school and were very clingy and always the ones in tears for weeks into the school term.

Emeraldshamrock · 16/12/2020 13:08

I'd look for another nursery/preschool based on the lack of communication and uniform policy for 3 y.o's.
Are you sure grey joggers won't do.
I wouldn't worry about him meeting new friends when he gets there as the DC love when a special guest joins after Christmas.
Is it possible to wait till September for preschool and look for a pt creche now.

Emeraldshamrock · 16/12/2020 13:09

Grey elasticated waist trousers are available in M&S all year.

Meatshake · 16/12/2020 13:28

It's only the bigger sizes that tend to be proper button and zip fastening.

Can you take a sly walk past at kick out time and see what the kids are actually wearing?

If you're struggling to find comfortable shoes then try looking for Vivo barefoot ones. They look like formal shoes but they're really comfy and lets the foot grow properly. Definitely aim to get them in the sales though 😂

If it helps my 2 year old is joining pre school in January. Im lucky that his older sister is in her second year there (does 3 full days) and I know from experience that the staff are wonderful. However if I didn't know this I would be an absolute bundle of nerves on the basis that all new parents are being told absolutely feck all.

I think it's an unfortunate mix of the Christmas busy period and covid stuff. It's so hard for the parents but having watched my nephew (4) start reception this year under similar conditions I'm amazed by how brave, adaptable and resilient the kids are. This generation is going to be amazing.

If you have concerns I think the best thing you can do is ask for a phone call, maybe with his keyworker? They're going to be very used to concerned parents having a wobble.

At the end of the day you can always try him with it and if it's a bad fit pull him out.

TheOtherMaryBerry · 16/12/2020 15:06

Are you sure grey joggers won't do.

I'm not sure at all. I suspect that they aren't too strict about all these things as I've only heard good things about the school, but as I've not had a chance to talk to anyone it's difficult to get an impression for myself! Thank you for the M&S tip, we don't have one here but if I have no luck I'll order from there!

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randomer · 16/12/2020 15:10

Dear me,its rather pitiful isnt it putting a 3 year old in a uniform. What on earth is this country doing to children and families.

TheOtherMaryBerry · 16/12/2020 15:11

Can you take a sly walk past at kick out time and see what the kids are actually wearing?

I did actually try that but the private nursery is right next door and they use the same exit so it was difficult to know who was from where!

If it helps my 2 year old is joining pre school in January.

Ah, lovely! Hope he loves it. Yes, it's all just a big step in the dark at the moment. I'm absolutely sure DS be fine but things are so generally strange at the moment it's difficult not to be worried! I will try to ring again definitely, and will take a look at the Vivo shoes!

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HoneysuckIejasmine · 16/12/2020 17:54

DS3 wears a uniform jumper but his own trousers... He can use a toilet but is easily distracted and his aim isn't always great, especially as he needs to ask well in advance to get out the room. And so he often comes home in different trousers. I am not buying a million pairs of school trousers, he grows like a weed!

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