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Cross country trip during Covid - AIBU

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TheHamsterKing · 15/12/2020 03:24

Name change, as I'm not sure if I have family on here. Long story short, my brother and his wife have just had their first baby. Due to Covid, nobody was able to see her in person, although DB/SIL almost allowed SIL's parents to fly in from across the country to visit for the birth. We all live in the States, and the pandemic is very bad here. Ultimately, they decided against it due to this, and the baby not having an immune defense yet.

Now, with DN just two months old, they've booked a rental truck with a small trailer hitched on the back and are planning to drive in a few weeks across the entire USA from one hotspot to another (where they live is currently on lockdown, but they're still planning to leave), to bring their little one "for a visit." There is no medical or safety need for this, and it isn't for work. They'll be planning to visit with multiple families while they're here, including many people in at-risk groups. Yes, they will be breaching the stay at home order, but their defense is that it's not technically illegal (or at least won't be enforced as such).

Because all the family (including us) also live in a hot spot, they're asking family to "quarantine" for six to ten days beforehand and for the duration of their visit (two weeks), and to pay for a Covid test so they can hold the baby. This means that several people in SIL's family (as well as mine) have to stay home from work for several weeks.

SIL's younger sister, who works in retail, could lose her job over such a long absence; while SIL has expressed concern over this possibility, she's asked it all the same. Her younger sister still lives with her parents, and she wants them to see the baby: so they and her sister have to quarantine together. SIL's father has had some major health events this year and used up all his leave/work from home time. He's concerned he won't be able to quarantine as long as she wants, so SIL has just shortened the quarantine time they're asking for to six to ten days, from the CDC recommended 14.

When my brother called to tell us their plans, I let them know we wouldn't be able to see them during their visit. We have a toddler and a preschool aged child, and I am terrified of accidentally giving something to DN, as well as catching something from DB/SIL from their trip across the country from one hotspot to another. They say they'll be "quarantining" in their rented trailer, but with stops for gas/food/etc. in various hot spots along the way, I'm not sure how it's possible to do a full quarantine. My DH's health history is sketchy, so I'm not comfortable putting him at risk either. While they were fine with our decision, the rest of the family thinks we're unreasonable for declining.

We have also canceled holiday plans with the rest of the family. I'm gutted, but we do have to be careful and numbers in our state have been skyrocketing upwards. Added to our family telling us that breaching government guidelines is "safe enough", we'd rather wait to gather until the stakes aren't so high for us. I know they disagree with our decision, but if we catch it the consequences could be very bad. They're obviously upset about all this, and blame us. I feel awful, but we didn't create this situation; added to that, the family aren't being as safe as we need for our situation, so I don't see how we could manage a get-together and trust them to social distance/wear masks, etc. AIBU?

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BikeRunSki · 15/12/2020 03:35

Nothing about this plan seems like a good idea to me. It just seems like a plan to superspreaders.
Your brother is ridiculous expecting everyone to isolate beforehand in order to meet the baby.

TheHamsterKing · 15/12/2020 03:45

Thanks, @BikeRunSki. I'm a worrier who is easily guilt-tripped, so I've been going back and forth on whether we're being the unreasonable ones here. It feels like (and I think looks like) we're judging my brother's parenting decisions, and that is such an awkward situation to be in. But I am worried for DN and my at-risk family members who aren't treating this as seriously as I thought they would. I really hope DN is safe, as she didn't ask for any of this. At least we won't be the ones to give anything to her, although it's small comfort if something goes pear-shaped. Sad

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Toilenstripes · 15/12/2020 03:50

They’re being ridiculous. You shouldn’t go along with this plan. Everyone can see the baby next year. Wtf?

TheHamsterKing · 15/12/2020 03:55

@Toilenstripes, that's what I told my brother, but he just kept saying it was "important to them" that everyone see DN in person (we've all seen her via video chat) while she was still little. I'm worried for her, as the roundtrip across the States won't be comfortable for her in a carseat anyway, pandemic or no. DB said they plan to stop every two hours for a break, but it all sounds so stressful for little DN.

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BikeRunSki · 15/12/2020 07:18

@TheHamsterKing. You’re not being unreasonable at all. Your brother is very ridiculously self important.

QueenOfLabradors · 15/12/2020 07:25

Was your brother always so selfish and inconsiderate?

Nanny0gg · 15/12/2020 08:08

They're bonkers! How dare they risk people's health and jobs!

TheHamsterKing · 15/12/2020 08:10

@QueenOfLabradors, he’s older than me so has always been a bit of a bossy older sibling; but I figure most older siblings are. He and SIL usually come back for the holidays, and the family does tend to drop everything for their visits, but I never thought of it as that unusual since they live so far away. Looking back, maybe I shouldn’t have been surprised. I suppose he has had a tendency to have things revolve around him; it’s just never really mattered until now. Sad

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Clarich007 · 15/12/2020 08:16

Hi OP
I'm sorry you have this worry, no you are definately not being unreasonable at all !! I's a ridiculous suggestion and very entitled.
It would be lovely of course to see the baby, but such a complicated plan is crazy.
I can't believe he expects you all to quarantine for their visit.He's definately not thinking straight.How would anyone feel if someone caught Covid.
You are doing the right thing.

Clarich007 · 15/12/2020 08:18

Sorry that should say definately

BikeRunSki · 15/12/2020 09:23

Nanny0gg has it.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 15/12/2020 09:36

YANBU

Your brother is incredibly entitled.

It's a shame people are missing out on spending time with the babies born during the pandemic as well as young ones in the family. No doubt about it, but 'meeting' a baby is a nonsense, and it's for the adults, not the baby.

He's expecting a LOT from a LOT of people. I'm surprised more of them haven't said 'sorry, can't do that'. It's bizarre that he thinks people can just take time off work to isolate for 10 days just to see his baby & pay to take a test so they can hold her.

Utterly nuts!!

Also, as you said, it'll be unpleasant for your Niece.

My brother is an entitled twat too & this is the kind of nonsense he'd propose. He's younger than me though! So it's not an 'eldest' thing!

I'm sorry it's changed you Christmas plans, but I think enjoying Christmas with just your DH & your kids will be better anyway 🎄

Porcupineinwaiting · 15/12/2020 09:40

I'm sorry but it sounds like most of your family fellow countrymen have taken leave of their senses.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 15/12/2020 10:05

You need a classic Mumsnet response.
"No." - it's a complete sentence Wink
"That doesn't work for us"
"Did you mean to be so rude"
"Are you sniffing gas?"

They all work.

I personally like, "are you batshit?"

Enjoy your Christmas and don't feel remotely guilty. Your health service is already drowning, what's January going to be like.

TheHamsterKing · 15/12/2020 18:49

Thanks all. I was worried about the response from my family, but as @Porcupineinwaiting said, lots of people here are acting like there’s nothing wrong. I didn’t expect it from our families, but oh well. I called our pediatrician today and she recommended we not visit for all the reasons stated here and more. So I feel like I have an authority under my belt now to deflect the blame, and to hopefully sway some of the others in the direction of “doctors say this is a bad idea, maybe I shouldn’t do it.” I appreciate the responses.

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