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If You Planned to Retire in an EU Country what Are You Plans Now?

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ZaraW · 14/12/2020 09:26

Not really AIBU but interested to see what others plans are. I'm 50 next year and always hoped to retire to Italy when I was around 60.

Obviously, that's not going to happen. If you planned to do the same what will you do now?

A) Relocate within the UK to countryside, coast etc.
B) Retire to a country outside of the EU. I thought about Thailand as I love it but the heat and humidity would be too much on a permanent basis.
C) Stay where you and travel to Europe for the permitted time.
D) Other

Covid has got me thinking about future plans and I just don't know what I want.

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veeeeh · 15/12/2020 17:43

Don't forget, UK has left the EU now.

This debacle is about TRADE, nothing more.

Driving licenses, animal passports, max time to stay in EU and all the rest of it still stands.

Enjoy.

Yugi · 15/12/2020 18:22

That said, to @tara66, I have the birth certificate of a ancestor born prior to 1916

How far can you go back? I have an Irish surname.**

You have to have a grandparent that was born on the island of Ireland. And if their birth certificate was destroyed in the civil war you can provide a baptism certificate instead. I am just glad I didn’t have to go down that route.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 15/12/2020 18:24

@veeeeh Pet passports- From 1 January 2021, you will no longer be able to use pet passports. Instead you will need to follow a different process. The government website says you should contact your vet at least four months before travelling, to get the latest advice.
Thanks everyone who voted leave

DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow · 15/12/2020 18:26

@Changi

That said, to @tara66, I have the birth certificate of a ancestor born prior to 1916

How far can you go back? I have an Irish surname.

Well, it depends on how much you can find out. I'd start with your dads birth certificate, and, if he and your mum married, the wedding certificate to some more details on his parents. Then you can do a more through search. But like I said, the Irish officials wanted my parents photo ID etc, which they don't have. It might be quite difficult if you didn't/don't have contact with your dad- although I'm sure there must be a way around it and they do reply to email inquiries.
DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow · 15/12/2020 18:28

[quote UnshakenNeedsStirring]@veeeeh Pet passports- From 1 January 2021, you will no longer be able to use pet passports. Instead you will need to follow a different process. The government website says you should contact your vet at least four months before travelling, to get the latest advice.
Thanks everyone who voted leave[/quote]
Someone I know who voted Brexit is outraged.
They want to move to Spain when they retire- they have a holiday home there and go fairly often and take their dog. They think the extra paperwork is the EU being difficult and bullying Brits into submission.
I wonder at what point they will start to take some responsibility for their vote...

veeeeh · 15/12/2020 18:32

It all sounds great for everyone including pets, bank accounts and so on doesn't it?

Trade is what they are thinking now. Sick of it all really.

Itscoldouthere · 15/12/2020 18:35

I think some people think it's really easy to get an Irish passport if you have ancestors, but if your ancestors left Ireland and didn't register their children's births in the 'Births abroad book' or if their children didn't take up an Irish passport it gets more complex and more proof is needed.
You need to keep the connection well documented, my children who now have Irish passport will be able to get Irish passports for their children as the link is proven, but to get a passport for my DH we have to find a lot of documents and most of the people we need them for have already died so it's not straightforward to know where to find them, much easier if your relatives are still alive.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 15/12/2020 18:50

@DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow how can people be so thick. Im deeply annoyed by this whole debacle. I wish I could move :(

dreamydreamer333 · 15/12/2020 19:09

@KenDodd

Have any Leave voters been on to gloat yet about ruining people's retirement plans? Robbing us of our EU rights seems to be something they're particularly delighted about.
Biscuit
ConfusedcomMum · 15/12/2020 19:14

SantasBritchesSpelleas

It's not in my plan to retire to an EU country, but I'm still hoping we might have rejoined by the time I retire (20 years).

I never thought about this, a glimmer of hope then. I wonder in the meantime if certain countries that the UK didn't seem keen on joining will join in our absence?

Europilgrim · 15/12/2020 20:19

Driving licenses, animal passports, max time to stay in EU and all the rest of it still stands.
I'm not sure what you mean by still stands. All of those have changed.

Changi · 15/12/2020 20:36

I'm not sure what you mean by still stands. All of those have changed.

The current negotiations concern trade. They are not discussing the things mentioned.

onlythepianoplayer · 15/12/2020 21:01

It's not in my plan to retire to an EU country, but I'm still hoping we might have rejoined by the time I retire (20 years)

Is that a joke? Why on earth would the EU even entertain the idea of taking you back, after you've cost the EU billions and royally screwed over Ireland?
Bizarre notion.

dreamingbohemian · 15/12/2020 21:13

The EU would absolutely take the UK back in 20 years, just on much less favourable terms.

I don't think it will happen though because the UK will break up before then.

DesdemonaDryEyes · 15/12/2020 21:15

It’s outrageous that we can’t retire to an EU country and take pooch.

Ylvamoon · 15/12/2020 21:24

Driving licenses, animal passports, max time to stay in EU and all the rest of it still stands

Nope, after the UK has left, we are treated like anyone else who wants to visited from outside the EU.
Unless of course we negotiate "freedom of movement" terms within our trade agreement...

Thewithesarehere · 15/12/2020 21:26

@Oliversmumsarmy

Not retiring, but we were planning to buy a holiday home in Spain or Southern Italy but it looks like we can only stay for 3 months during each year.

We are looking at the US now.
Flights will be more expensive but the option to stay for 6 months is a big draw

How can you stay in the US for six months every year? Which visa?
Lemonsyellow · 15/12/2020 21:36

Driving licenses, animal passports, max time to stay in EU and all the rest of it still stands

No, they don’t. All those automatically have changed.

KenDodd · 15/12/2020 22:00

Why on earth would the EU even entertain the idea of taking you back, after you've cost the EU billions and royally screwed over Ireland?
Bizarre notion.

Because most of the people who voted for this will be dead by then?

onlythepianoplayer · 15/12/2020 22:02

Because most of the people who voted for this will be dead by then?

In 20 years? Of course they won't. Hmm

DontStopThinkingAboutTomorrow · 15/12/2020 22:06

I never thought about this, a glimmer of hope then. I wonder in the meantime if certain countries that the UK didn't seem keen on joining will join in our absence?

Which ones? Turkey is nowhere near meeting the criteria. Shame we don't have a veto anymore, though.

DesdemonaDryEyes · 15/12/2020 22:07

Russia?

Cattenberg · 15/12/2020 22:19

My current idea is to move to Ireland (thanks to the CTA), apply for Irish citizenship after five years, then possibly move to warmer climes. I would be grateful to Ireland for this, BTW, and would hope to give something back.

But it could be 30 years before I retire, so who knows what will have changed by then? In theory, I have the right to settle in Israel, due to my part-Jewish ancestry. I wouldn’t want to now, but it might be a safer country in the future.

Oliversmumsarmy · 15/12/2020 22:30

Thewithesarehere

If you buy a holiday home in the US you can stay for 180 days every 6 months, hence 6 months in the year.

I was going to buy in Southern Europe but want to stay more than the 3 months now on offer.

I wonder how places like Spain and Greece which have a lot of British who own property over there will do if they start to see a drop in tourism and those who go over for the winter months.

ZaraW · 16/12/2020 06:31

I've been looking at Ireland. This house in Donegal looks amazing....

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/80952539?currencyCode=GBP#/

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