To ask about the Queen

[Allthestarsarecloser]

So say it goes really tits up in the country in January (which of course it will in a no deal brexit) - can the Queen get rid of the government & Boris! If the country is in peril? What’s the protocol? We’ve never had a rogue government before in recent history so what is the precedent?

Just been discussing this at home & have no idea of the answer so AIBU to ask mumsnetters for their thoughts?

The Queen can't do anything. She's purely ornamental.

Can she not dissolve the government?

Of course she can't. She can't cut off Trumps head with a sword either. Hth.

We really are fucked then 😱

@Allthestarsarecloser

Can she not dissolve the government?

I think only at the request of the PM

I could be wrong

Yup.

@Allthestarsarecloser

Can she not dissolve the government?

Yes, she can.

It's a democratically elected government which campaigned on delivery of Brexit. Leavers knew that Brexit could mean no deal, and accepted that as a possibility. It's not a "rogue" government (whatever than means) and the Queen will not intercede.

HTH.

Rogue government as in not acting in the best interest of its citizens- putting food security and medicine at risk

But OP if she had the power to do that it have happened before now .. what was the percentage of the country that didn’t want us to invade Iraq again?

How many marched?

There was nothing we could do

Sorry if I'm mistaken, but can't she only dissolve parliament under certain conditions if necessary not government itself?

MrsLebowski I’m pretty sure your incorrect

I think only at the request of the PM

I understand your logic but I think the tease n a pm has to request her displace government is because she can at any point.

I mean she doesn’t but she can

If the Queen went against the government you would see how easy it is to get rid of the Monarchy.

People voted for this. It's out of our hands and the queen's now. More's the pity.

Honestly I have no idea about any of it, hence the question. It’s just wishful thinking on my part tbh. Assume we’ll just get some god awful other Tory like Gove or Priti Patel as pm as Boris will go

We Would still leave the EU we would just do it as a Republic

Sorry my yup was to the Ops question are we fucked?
But being serious it will probably be difficult but we will get through it no need to panic.

@Allthestarsarecloser

Rogue government as in not acting in the best interest of its citizens- putting food security and medicine at risk

In a democracy, what is in the best interests of the citizens is determined by a majority vote. Apparently, the majority disagreed with you.

Do you actually want a non elected individual who is in the role purely through birth to be able to topple a democratically chosen government?

Really?

@PurpleDaisies no I guess not. I am just anxious about a no deal brexit. No one voted for food and medicine shortages

Ok google is everyone’s friend those saying she’s no she can’t and she’s have done it before now are wrong

From wiki
“The monarch could force the dissolution of Parliament through a refusal of royal assent; this would very likely lead to a government resigning. By convention, the monarch always assents to bills”

So yea she can force the dissolution and she can stop assenting to bills

The last case was in the 17 hundred but she can

A certain King Charles did give it a go once, but it went poorly, and wasn't repeated.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_prerogative_in_the_United_Kingdom

@RizzleDrizzle that’s interesting thanks - is refusal of royal assent the state opening of parliament or does it only happen after an election?

The government got voted in by a huge majority. Why would she do anything.