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ameliorate AIBU?

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LightTheFlameThrower · 08/12/2020 19:46

Is this really a standard word that most people know? (I thought it was a typo)

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Flibbertigibbet2211 · 08/12/2020 20:29

Anyone who's learnt Latin would know that "melior" means "better" , so the meaning of "ameliorate" would be easy to deduce if you didn't already know it. But not that many people do learn Latin nowadays. People would tend to say "improve" in preference to "ameliorate", so I suppose it isn't in particularly common usage. Arguably it's slightly more flowery and pompous than "improve" but there is also a subtle difference in meaning, or rather appropriateness in context.

Girlyracer · 08/12/2020 20:29

Not common in my circles but I know what it means.

malmi · 08/12/2020 20:29

It is the 10,303rd most common word in the English language. The average English native speaker knows about 20,000 words with university-educated people knowing around 40,000 words.

So yes, going by that, most people would know it.

Source 1: datayze.com/word-analyzer?word=ameliorate

Source 2: www.bellenglish.com/blog/how-many-words-do-you-know/

nancybotwinbloom · 08/12/2020 20:31

Never heard this word.

Not going to attempt to use as as I'm
Not sure how to pronounce it!

Sunbird24 · 08/12/2020 20:32

I might use it occasionally but certainly wouldn’t hear it on a daily or even weekly basis, and probably not anywhere other than my workplace.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/12/2020 20:32

Woah! Word lists and rankings.. I could be here all night Grin

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/12/2020 20:32

@malmi for the win.

LightTheFlameThrower · 08/12/2020 20:33

“Anyone who has learnt latin”..

This phrase I think might be proving my point.

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VienneseWhirligig · 08/12/2020 20:33

I know what it means but I did Latin at school. DS hadn't heard it.

OneTC · 08/12/2020 20:34

I don't think it's very common but it's certainly a word I know. It's not exactly something you hear every day regardless of whatever people on here say Grin

Favourite usage was when Haile Sellasie sent coffee to the UK during the flooding of the 1950s "to alleviate and ameliorate the suffering" of the British people

EugenesAxe · 08/12/2020 20:35

I know it but I can't remember the definition 🙄 I think it means to make friendly overtones to someone? Or pacify?

MatildaTheCat · 08/12/2020 20:36

It depends on how much and what you read I think. The majority of Oxbridge graduates I’ve met are pretty well rounded and would definitely know this word. I know it because I’m interested in language and read a lot.

Using interesting words makes reading more enjoyable. Anyway, good to learn new words, no?

OneTC · 08/12/2020 20:36

In did learn Latin but that's not why I know the word

I know the word because I memorised large sections of the OED cos I was fucking weird

Zilla1 · 08/12/2020 20:37

@malmi, thank you and well done. There goes several more hours of displacement activity for me.

LubaLuca · 08/12/2020 20:38

It's not an everyday word, but it isn't unusual. Most people would understand it and could use it correctly.

forgetthehousework · 08/12/2020 20:40

Laudable @malmi.
Or perhaps meritorious would be a better word Wink.

TheSmallAssassin · 08/12/2020 20:40

I don't know Latin, but I do know what ameliorate means and have used it on occasion. I get the impression that you feel like someone is trying to put you down by using it in a message, in which case they are being unreasonable.

Flibbertigibbet2211 · 08/12/2020 20:41

@OneTC

That's a good sort of weird though.
Grin

Lucked · 08/12/2020 20:41

I know what it means but have never used it myself. I am not sure I have heard anyone I know say it either - just in books or on the TV

Maybe in certain businesses it is used frequently but not in my profession.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/12/2020 20:41

@LightTheFlameThrower

“Anyone who has learnt latin”..

This phrase I think might be proving my point.

If you're point-scoring about other people's spelling and grammar, please do reread your posts.

Muphrey's Law in action.

cardswapping · 08/12/2020 20:41

I know the word and understand it, but never hear it used in my SE neighbourhood or on TV/radio. Nor have I read it. I did study mathematical economics and it was not used in my textbooks at the time either. But there is a fashion with words too.

It sounds like an Americanism to me.

Almostslimjim · 08/12/2020 20:42

It's common in American English. I know it from the American shows I watch. Like matriculate and copacetic. They are known words in English, but not that common in England.

SugarMiceInTheRain · 08/12/2020 20:42

I wouldn't say common, but not obscure either.

DieSchottin93 · 08/12/2020 20:43

I have heard of this word, but I studied French which has the verb améliorer so I guessed it had to have the same meaning. Though I've only ever used it in a handful of essays to try and hide the fact I had no clue what I was writing about Grin

LightTheFlameThrower · 08/12/2020 20:43

@forgetthehousework. I know (and use) all those words

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