Hairdresser full of cold

[EmilyDoesntKnowHerStuff]

Would you be happy to attend a hair appointment by a hairdresser full of cold?

YABU Yes
YANBU No

@contrmary, you are being ridiculous. You evidently have little idea of how easy it is to be sanctioned these days for missing work over a mild cold. Even before Covid, if you are vulnerable to even a cold, it's on you to protect yourself. Perhaps masks and hand gel is the way forward regardless, but a cold is a cold.

If someone has an especially bad cold, yes I think they should stay at home, but that's for their benefit more than anything. I say this as someone who ended up with pneumonia from catching someone else's cold - however, unlike Covid, that was exceptional not the expected.

[quote BrumBoo]**@contrmary, you are being ridiculous. You evidently have little idea of how easy it is to be sanctioned these days for missing work over a mild cold. Even before Covid, if you are vulnerable to even a cold, it's on you to protect yourself. Perhaps masks and hand gel is the way forward regardless, but a cold is a cold.

If someone has an especially bad cold, yes I think they should stay at home, but that's for their benefit more than anything. I say this as someone who ended up with pneumonia from catching someone else's cold - however, unlike Covid, that was exceptional not the expected.[/quote]
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@contrmary you are being dramatic and ridiculous. Providing it is just a general mild cold then people are fine to work. You really expect them to call in sick and potentially not get paid because they have a slightly sniffly nose? Do you extend that to any dc's or potential dc's you may have in the future? You would be constantly writing sick notes

Would you expect the same for a teacher? Or a doctor? Or a dentist? There would be no one left working over the winter months?

No, I wouldn’t like it.

Although I guess another day you’ll have someone post in here “my hairdresser cancelled just for a cold!” Complaining about it.

My reply was for @contrymary..

@contrmary

Before covid, I couldn't stay off work every time I had a sniffle. If I am off work with illness more than three times a year, I face a disciplinary meeting to discuss it. So unless I really was ill, I had to go in. Now with covid, if I got I'll I'd have no choice to isolate until I get a negative test, or self isolate if I've been in close contact with someone etc etc.

If this hairdresser had a negative test then I don't see the issue with her working. Very few people can afford to stay off work everytime they feel under the weather.

but if a customer catches the cold off the hairdresser then they need to get a covid test and stay off work.

At this stage I'd just be so thrilled to be getting my hair done!

How ill are we talking? I often have a runny nose/sneezing but it's allergies. Quite embarrassing in Covid times. If she just has the sniffles I wouldn't care. Although it would be very uncomfortable for her while wearing a mask.

@pinkbalconyrailing

but if a customer catches the cold off the hairdresser then they need to get a covid test and stay off work.

Since when? There are exceptions of course, but the difference between a cold and covid symptoms have been set out for months. If you're sneezing and snotty then high chances are that it's a cold and you can decide for yourself if you're well enough to go to work or not.

If you are both wearing face masks and washing your hands surely you won’t get a cold?

Precovid my hairdresser gave me a really bad cold a couple of days before I went on the holiday of a lifetime which I then gave to an immunocompromised member of the family and they ended up having to go to hospital in a foreign country as their lungs were badly affected and they needed extra help breathing. We were all miserable for the first week, huddled in a hotel room,
coughing, sneezing and spluttering, too ill to see any of the sights. The hairdresser was so full of it that they dropped snot all over the cape I was wearing and repeatedly sneezed all over me, getting snot in my hair. I was pretty disgusted. I do fully understand the problems around being self employed but at the same time, it would be nice to at least have an option to have been informed and to cancel rather than having a holiday ruined and a loved one needing hospitalised.

My friend is a hairdresser with an immunocompromised child. She does the decent thing and cancels when ill but then works extra hours to make up the shortfall when she’s well.

Since when? There are exceptions of course, but the difference between a cold and covid symptoms have been set out for months. If you're sneezing and snotty then high chances are that it's a cold and you can decide for yourself if you're well enough to go to work or not.

Since when?

Since colds can result in a fever and loss of taste and smell? How would you know for 100% that you didn’t have Covid? Why ignore the official symptoms if you have them?

I’m a nurse. We see patients and colleagues with Covid who “just” have cold symptoms. It’s very common. In children it often presents as “just” a tummy bug.

The Zoe research app often invites users to test with cold like or sore throat symptoms. It happened to me with just a sore throat and headache.

Whether you like it or not common cold symptoms can be a sign of Covid and whether it’s Covid or not it’s your civic duty to isolate and test with symptoms such as fever, loss of smell/taste, new cough (which often comes as part of a cold).

@ProudAuntie76

Since when? There are exceptions of course, but the difference between a cold and covid symptoms have been set out for months. If you're sneezing and snotty then high chances are that it's a cold and you can decide for yourself if you're well enough to go to work or not.

Since when?

Since colds can result in a fever and loss of taste and smell? How would you know for 100% that you didn’t have Covid? Why ignore the official symptoms if you have them?

I’m a nurse. We see patients and colleagues with Covid who “just” have cold symptoms. It’s very common. In children it often presents as “just” a tummy bug.

The Zoe research app often invites users to test with cold like or sore throat symptoms. It happened to me with just a sore throat and headache.

Whether you like it or not common cold symptoms can be a sign of Covid and whether it’s Covid or not it’s your civic duty to isolate and test with symptoms such as fever, loss of smell/taste, new cough (which often comes as part of a cold).

As I said in my previous post, the key symptoms of covid have been clearly available for months. A cold has its own symptoms though, and being a bit snotty is not Covid. It's about using common sense, obviously if there's all the key markers of covid then people should isolate until they have a test.

If I went to the hairdresser and they had a cold, I would leave, and never go back.

Thank fuck for that, I'm certain you'd be doing them a massive favour.

From a selfish point of view I’d rather not. Even if it’s just a cold, if you get it and get ‘a bit of a cough’ with it then that’s you having to get a test booked and then wait for a test result.

But what does she think? Can you pay her 50% or is she asking if you want to cancel?

Cold symptoms absolutely do not rule out covid.
If you caught it today, with 5 days incubation, your household will be self isolating for Christmas Day.

No. They shouldn't be working when unwell at any time, but particularly not during a pandemic when there are so many cases of people testing positive with cold-like symptoms.

Went to the post office a few days ago .Guy in there coughing with no mask on WTAF?! Assistant asked him to put his on ,no he didnt have one!Luckily he was a good few metres away .Felt very cross!

No, a little sniffle isn't a bad thing but if there is sneezing and coughing going on, I will not be sitting down

No, not because of covid specifically but because I don't want to catch any kind of cold/flu/random virus.

That being said I understand that many hairdressers are self employed and need to work when ill so I'd be reluctant to say anything about it...

Plus I'd feel too awkward to cancel once I'd arrived for my appointment anyway!

My hairdresser is self employed. If she doesn’t have Covid symptoms or has had a negative Covid test I’m ok with it. (And that’s not hypothetical.. I saw her after she’d felt mildly unwell and tested negative.) We’re also both wearing masks, so I feel the risk of transmission is pretty low.
I totally get it if someone wants to make a different call though.

I’ve got covid, my symptoms are a mild cold, sneezing, mild headache etc, none of the typical covid symptoms. If it wasn’t for the fact I have a positive test I wouldn’t even consider not going to work etc.
That being said, I wouldn’t want to have someone obviously visibly ill doing my hair but light cold wouldn’t bother me in normal times. But since my test I’m now basically wanting to keep away from anyone at all!!

It wouldn't bother me, however I'd be concerned for the hairdresser, having a full blown cold is just miserable.