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If we didn’t have the royal family...?

89 replies

Emma8899 · 06/12/2020 18:50

How would it work? Inspired by another thread. A few people saying that it should be dismantled when the Queen dies.

In reality, how would that work? What would become of the royal family if we decided we just wouldn’t have a monarchy anymore? Obviously they would be normal aristocrats in theory but without the tourism and tax payer money, would they have to get normal jobs?

I’ve never really thought about it before but I can’t really see how we would ever be without the monarchy?

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MiddleClassMother · 06/12/2020 19:02

I would imagine they would have to get a job. Not that they'd be very employable! Job centre it is? I doubt the monarchy will end for a long time in all seriousness, it brings a lot of money into the country.

Emma8899 · 06/12/2020 19:05

@MiddleClassMother

I would imagine they would have to get a job. Not that they'd be very employable! Job centre it is? I doubt the monarchy will end for a long time in all seriousness, it brings a lot of money into the country.
I just can’t fathom how it would actually work - less so for the much older royals as they’re OAPs anyway but the younger ones who, if not royal, would still be working - what on earth would they do? Could they just pull the rug up from under them - I doubt it?
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x2boys · 06/12/2020 19:06

Don't they have enough personal wealth not to have to get a Job? Tbh even if we did get rid of them I still think they would be opening charities ,buildings etc there is enough interest in them that they will still have a luxurious lifestyle.

Lockheart · 06/12/2020 19:08

They might actually be richer, given that the income from the Sovereign Grant only gives the royals 15% of the income from the Crown Estate and the government keeps the rest.

If the Crown Estate went with them then they'd be much better off and the govt less so.

Magicbabywaves · 06/12/2020 19:08

I’m sure they’d get a job doing something; breeding horses, working in an art gallery etc. They’d be fine, why wouldn’t they?

BMW6 · 06/12/2020 19:09

Well they certainly wouldn't need to get jobs (at least not the senior members - not by age but hierarchy) as they are wealthy in their own right.

For instance, Sandringham is privately owned and is a huge estate, with tenant farmers and a large Revenue source. There are many others owned by individual members of the RF.

I would imagine that they would get a massive revenue from tourism still, just as many other stately homes and National Trust properties do.

I imagine some members of the family would be thrilled not to have Official duties to perform!

DynamoKev · 06/12/2020 19:11

Depends if the abolitionists are planning on confiscation of all their assets. The Royals own a lot of land and property.

LeaveMyDamnJam · 06/12/2020 19:11

Tourism will increase because people could tour much more of BP and WC.

France - no longer a monarchy - have far more tourists than we do.

We would have an elected HofS who would be elected for a fixed term. If they are crap, they are out, as with trump.

A hereditary monarchy gives us no choice. Just think, we could be faced with Andrew as next monarch if the queen hadn’t had Charles.

MorganKitten · 06/12/2020 19:19

what on earth would they do?

Most of the men have had military careers, as did the queen. They are very active in charity work.

Beatrice volunteered as a sales assistant at Selfridges. She also worked at the Foreign Office's press office for a period of time without receiving a salary. She currently has a full time job. She is also in charge of an Afiniti programme to engage senior business chiefs around the world to support women in leadership.

Eugenie works at work for the Hauser & Wirth art gallery as an associate director.

Sophie has had plenty of jobs including her own businesses.

StoneofDestiny · 06/12/2020 19:22

The royals are multi millionaires, the queen a billionaire. Don't think any of them need to 'find a job', they could just live off the money we have paid into them for generations.

Tourists would still come - as they do to the previously royal owned French Palaces and Russian Palaces.

We need rid of them all, they are increasingly embarrassing and there should be no place for them in a modern democracy.

x2boys · 06/12/2020 19:28

I don't think their life would change that much ,not for the current Royals anyway ,I'm not a royalist or particularly interested in the Royal family but plenty of people are ,they will still be doing tours and giving after dinner speeches ,maybe the minor royals will be writing books about being in the royal family or failing that there is always reality TV

Wiredforsound · 06/12/2020 19:29

Most first world countries don’t have monarchies. It’s very weird that we do. As one of the wealthiest families in the world they wouldn’t need to get jobs if they didn’t want to, and we’d always have the historical stuff for all the history buffs. I just don’t think they’re that relevant anymore. If we didn’t have the Queen nothing would happen. Laws wouldn’t change, priorities wouldn’t change, all that would change is that we wouldn’t have an old lady in a gold hat telling us that times were hard, or reading out a speech that Boris Johnson’s SPAD wrote for her.

PurpleDaisies · 06/12/2020 19:31

Hasn’t Harry essentially give up all his royalness?

They’ll live of their wealth. Some might live off being a minor celebrity. Some will get jobs.

JaneJeffer · 06/12/2020 19:34

Read The Queen and I by Sue Townsend. Great book Grin

Love51 · 06/12/2020 19:36

I've never understood the argument that the RF are a tourist attraction. I've taken my children to play in the park at At James park, and at the changing of the guard everyone stampedes across. But if no one was living there we could make money from tours INSIDE Buck House. It would be tricky constitutionally, but a lot easier than Brexit as there wouldn't be a load of trading partners to keep happy.

formerbabe · 06/12/2020 19:37

I'm sure they could live off their wealth or perhaps they'd make extra doing after dinner speeches or something...they won't be filling out application forms for a supermarket cashier job.

Future generations may have to work full time

Andante57 · 06/12/2020 19:38

Depends if the abolitionists are planning on confiscation of all their assets
I think the abolitionists who wanted to confiscate everything would find a way. They’d probably storm the building Russian Revolution style and smash and grab what they could.
Maybe art works would disappear in mysterious circumstances like the Amber Room in the war.
Not sure what would happen to the royal family themselves. Would they be guillotined using the French Revolution as an blue print or would they face a firing squad a la Maximilian of Mexico.

NoPainNoTartine · 06/12/2020 19:39

They would enjoy their wealth without any of their "obligations".

If they were inclined to do so, god knows why, they would earn another fortune going on public speaking tours, flogging their products etc.

First they would argue very strongly about what is their "private" wealth and currently called "state asset" when it suits them...

Viviennemary · 06/12/2020 19:39

I think it would be quite hard to get rid of them. Parliament isn't even allowed to vote on it. That's why they take a vow of allegiance to the Queen. Same with the armed forces. And the police.

PurpleDaisies · 06/12/2020 19:39

I think the abolitionists who wanted to confiscate everything would find a way.

I don’t think that’s where the majority of republicans are. We just want rid of an outdated and undemocratic institution.

fatkitchen · 06/12/2020 19:40

The country would save a lot of money 💰

Andante57 · 06/12/2020 19:40

Future generations may have to work full time

Future generations descending from minor royals will have to work full time even if we do have a royal family. I’m sure there are plenty of examples of that.

Emma8899 · 06/12/2020 19:43

I perhaps naively didn’t realise that they’d still have all their own wealth and that the property was their own - the way people talk about the royals so scathingly you’d think that tax payers fund every aspect of their lives, hence why I thought they’d be in a predicament if that was taken away! Confused

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Susanwouldntlikeit · 06/12/2020 19:45

Really don’t care what they would do. We just need to get rid. Ridiculous anachronism to have inherited status.

Emma8899 · 06/12/2020 19:45

@MorganKitten

what on earth would they do?

Most of the men have had military careers, as did the queen. They are very active in charity work.

Beatrice volunteered as a sales assistant at Selfridges. She also worked at the Foreign Office's press office for a period of time without receiving a salary. She currently has a full time job. She is also in charge of an Afiniti programme to engage senior business chiefs around the world to support women in leadership.

Eugenie works at work for the Hauser & Wirth art gallery as an associate director.

Sophie has had plenty of jobs including her own businesses.

I know certainly some of the ‘junior’ and more distant royals like you’ve listed above actually do have careers but surely they aren’t obliged to do ‘normal’ jobs - if wanted to, could they do solely Royal duties and live off that? It would be different if they weren’t royal anymore.
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